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Originally Posted by PJK3,Jun 3 2006, 11:02 AM
all i know is -- i still want my flying car. it's the year 2006 for God's sake... those bitches promised me that 20 years ago, and they still haven't delivered.
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Originally Posted by DrCloud,Jun 2 2006, 07:10 AM
If someone could figure out how to harness the energy stored in "heavy water", they'd have a fusion device, and powering cars would be the least of it. HPH
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I like it how the guy has a car rigged up with his machine, but for the moment is still set up to run off of his "fuel" AND gasoline 
Well, if he was able to get 100 miles using only 4 ounces of water, why not throw a couple of gallons in there and head off across the nation?! I guarantee you do that just once (with media in tow) and you'll never have to worry about financial problems again... Bill Gates would grovel at your feet.
Well, if he was able to get 100 miles using only 4 ounces of water, why not throw a couple of gallons in there and head off across the nation?! I guarantee you do that just once (with media in tow) and you'll never have to worry about financial problems again... Bill Gates would grovel at your feet.
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Electrolysis is nothing new, we've been using it onboard submarines for about 40 years to make the oxygen we breath. It's one reason we can remain submerged for months at a time, only needing to come up for food. Because of the explosive qualities of pure oxygen and hyrdogen we get out of the oxygen generator, we refer to it as "The Bomb".
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^ Excellent diagram!
The two things about that TV report (and, presumably the marketing the company is doing) that are notable are that they seem to have something new in the way of a catalyst (but what that means isn't clear, unless it's the electrode materials) and that they're taking the H & O and putting it into pressure bottles.
Nowhere was anything said about the efficiency of their system.
And, of most relevance to this car forum, nowhere do they explain what they're injecting into the fuel line. Either H or O (or both) would change the ingition process, but it's pretty clear that this isn't a high-cost-of-gasoline cure. HPH
The two things about that TV report (and, presumably the marketing the company is doing) that are notable are that they seem to have something new in the way of a catalyst (but what that means isn't clear, unless it's the electrode materials) and that they're taking the H & O and putting it into pressure bottles.
Nowhere was anything said about the efficiency of their system.
And, of most relevance to this car forum, nowhere do they explain what they're injecting into the fuel line. Either H or O (or both) would change the ingition process, but it's pretty clear that this isn't a high-cost-of-gasoline cure. HPH
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This is an interesting concept for a hybrid. Instead of batteries, I wonder if you can just set up the electrodes in line with your brake and engine generators and generate the hydrogen on board as you drive. Would the electrolysis equipment be lighter than the battery pack used in current hybrids? Could the engine generator be smaller and lighter than the electric motor used on current hybrids if all you are doing is electrolyzing (word?) water?
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Originally Posted by hahnn002,Jun 11 2006, 12:33 AM
Electrolysis is nothing new, we've been using it onboard submarines for about 40 years to make the oxygen we breath. It's one reason we can remain submerged for months at a time, only needing to come up for food. Because of the explosive qualities of pure oxygen and hyrdogen we get out of the oxygen generator, we refer to it as "The Bomb".
My name is Michael and I have been researching this topic for the past month. I am by no means an expert in Quantum Mechanics, but I somewhat understand what it is they are talking about.
Shuneycutt...Nice post by the way, as I believe this to be a new technology all in itself...
NFRs2000NYC... If by "heavy water" you mean (H-H)xO...Then I believe you are correct. By this, I mean that the water is not polarized anymore and the two hydrogen atoms are now bonded in a new type of bond Oxygen atom. I'm not really sure what you mean by "radiated water." If you are talking about water that is pulsed with 3000-4000 VDC of electricity at specific frequencies that that is correct. More on this in a second.
PJK3 and ... I'm sorry but you are right and dead wrong. If you do some reading of the links I provide at the bottom of this post, you will find that the process that he is trying to patent has, in fact, been around for much longer than hundreds of years, but not in the way you are thinking. It's called lightning Let me first start off by saying this is NOT electrolysis. I repeat.... THIS IS NOT ELECTROLYSIS. Electrolysis entails using an arcing underwater. This arcing, which you can see from hahnn002's post will form oxygen off the positive terminal and hydrogen off the negative terminal. You two are right up until this point.
From here you must look towards Dr. Santilli's work with Hadronic Mechanics. Dr. Santilli started his work with lightning research and through this research he found that by pulsing VDC underwater, you get some type of gas...NOT H2 or O2. Dr. Santilli has spent his life working towards his theories in Hadronic (of the molecular breakdown of Hadrons) Mechanics. Which explain this phenominon. Hadronic Mechanics states a number of things but basically claims that Quantum Mechanics breaks down when the wave packets of particles are non-linear, non-local, and non-potential. What this means is that Quantum Mechanics needs some revisions, and if you take a look at Einsteins work, you will find that he died a tired man that was working towards proving Quantum Mechanics wrong.
Fast forward to today. Santilli wrote a paper verifying the resulyts of the HHO bond. (refer to the bottom of the page). If you want the cliff notew version. He basically states that this shows that the HHO molecule is a bonded together in a bond we have not seen. He states clearly that he does not believe it to be of the valence type. He calls this new type of bond a magnecule, not a molecule.
The process that he is talking about is pulsing 3000-4000 volts at extremly low current and specific frequencies (i.e. Lightning). If you know a little bit about electrolysis, which most of you claim, you know that it uses...LOW voltages and HIGH current....(Gasp)...Not to mention maintaining the VDC at a stable level. Santilli states that he believes the pulsing of the VDC at high frequencies causes the H20 atom to "depolarize" into HH0, meaning, the two hydrogens are now bonded together along with the Oxygen atom.
If you would like to learn a little more about this "possible" new technology, feel free to read up on these websites. I have placed them in the order of easily comprehensible to...downright absurd.....
High School Chemistry....
Santilli's verification of HHO...
http://hytechapps.com/aquygen/international_journal.pdf
http://www.magnegas.com/
Quantum and Hadronic Mechanics (medium difficulty without a knowledge of Quantum Mechanics)...
http://www.i-b-r.org/docs/EHM-III-TitleC.pdf.zip
http://www.i-b-r.org/Inconsisist-Gravitation.pdf
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http://www.i-b-r.org/Hadronic-Mechanics.htm
If you skipped all the stuff above, and take one thing away from this post... Never say Never....
And by the way... As you can probably tell... I am not an English major... Apologize for the gramatical errors...
Michael