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Originally Posted by Kodokan_4,Mar 1 2005, 08:20 PM
I want a 10" sub that will handle 600W @ 2ohms, since that is what the amp puts out.
http://www.precisionpower.net/subwoofers/DCXseries.asp
It handles 1,000 watts RMS at 2 ohms with a 6.5" mounting depth.
What's your goal with the sub? Do you realize that the quote above virtually guarantees that you will get a sloppy, loud SPL sub instead of something that will blend in with your music?
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You are much better off, SQ-wise, with a sub with similar specs to the Van Gogh. Dual 4-ohm voice coils are your friend.
http://www.soundstream.com/sub/products_subs_vang.html
http://www.soundstream.com/sub/products_subs_vang.html
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Originally Posted by GroovyNeilNeil,Mar 1 2005, 11:15 AM
The hole that holds your spare tire accessories is easily 2 cubes...but if you drop a sub in there and seal it then you'll get no sound up front. Now the smart thing to do is to glass the entire trunk and have a slot port going up where the spare tire is supposed to be.
BTW...those Audiobahn subs were a mistake. Audiobahn is known for their floppy sounding subs.
BTW...those Audiobahn subs were a mistake. Audiobahn is known for their floppy sounding subs.
Everyone has posted that the Audiobahn subs are not top quality. I have also posted that I selected this sub because it is the ONLY 600W RMS sub I could find with a 5 inch mounting depth, and requires only 0.25 - 0.75 cu.ft. of space.
How about suggesting a specific sub that meets the criteria for MY project.
-Pete
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From: Judo Town, USA
Originally Posted by flitcroft,Mar 1 2005, 08:54 PM
Try the PPI DCX-102:
http://www.precisionpower.net/subwoofers/DCXseries.asp
It handles 1,000 watts RMS at 2 ohms with a 6.5" mounting depth.
What's your goal with the sub? Do you realize that the quote above virtually guarantees that you will get a sloppy, loud SPL sub instead of something that will blend in with your music?
http://www.precisionpower.net/subwoofers/DCXseries.asp
It handles 1,000 watts RMS at 2 ohms with a 6.5" mounting depth.
What's your goal with the sub? Do you realize that the quote above virtually guarantees that you will get a sloppy, loud SPL sub instead of something that will blend in with your music?
I don't understand how the continuous power handling is listed as 1000W AND the peak power is listed as 1000W.
This sub looks even bigger on the back than the Audiobahn, so I'm not sure I can angle it upward much at all. It's also 1/2 inch wider in diameter on the front. It would definitely need the custom enclosure.
I'm definitely going to try to get more info on this sub!
Is this sub a discontinued model? I only found one website that lists it.
My goal is to find the best quality sub that will fit into the trunk sidewell, preferably in the modified WL box. I would also like 600W RMS @ 2 ohms.
-Pete
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Not sure if the size is correct...but you might look into this.
http://www.ddaudio.com/dd/caraudio/w...sp?series=2500
I personally like digital designs...everyone has their own taste, though.
http://www.ddaudio.com/dd/caraudio/w...sp?series=2500
I personally like digital designs...everyone has their own taste, though.
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From: Judo Town, USA
Originally Posted by GroovyNeilNeil,Mar 1 2005, 11:47 PM
Not sure if the size is correct...but you might look into this.
http://www.ddaudio.com/dd/caraudio/w...sp?series=2500
I personally like digital designs...everyone has their own taste, though.
http://www.ddaudio.com/dd/caraudio/w...sp?series=2500
I personally like digital designs...everyone has their own taste, though.
No published price or dimensions, and I don't know what size enclosure it needs. It's not even for sale on the internet! (What's up with these subs?) I'll have to contact DD for more info.
Can I run 600W @ 2ohms to this sub? It's listed at 500W RMS, 1000W music, and 2000W peak @ 4/4 ohms.
My amp only delivers 300W @ 4 ohms.
-Pete
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^ Your problem is that you are asking for for two different things, as I wrote above. There are very few subs on the planet that are all three of these: 10" diameter, 600 watts RMS, 2 ohm stable. Every one of them is going to be a sloppy SPL noise maker. I don't understand why you'd pair these with some of the best components you can buy. You are much better off running 300 watts RMS at 4ohms to a DVC sub that is many times more musical.
If that's still not clear what you are basically asking for is a giant noise maker that pushes air in a thump. What audio lovers seek out are subwoofers that blend in with the music and do not make themselves heard. Granted, everyone with a good system likes to crank up the bass now and then, but the ultimate goal is to get a sub that fills out your low end of your music. The two subs above will not do that.
Finally, 300 watts RMS is fine in an S2000 with a sealed box. You will still get plenty of bass -- likely enough to rattle the heck out of your trunk. If you want more bass trade in that amp one more time, but pick one that is 4 ohm stable at ~450 watts.
If that's still not clear what you are basically asking for is a giant noise maker that pushes air in a thump. What audio lovers seek out are subwoofers that blend in with the music and do not make themselves heard. Granted, everyone with a good system likes to crank up the bass now and then, but the ultimate goal is to get a sub that fills out your low end of your music. The two subs above will not do that.
Finally, 300 watts RMS is fine in an S2000 with a sealed box. You will still get plenty of bass -- likely enough to rattle the heck out of your trunk. If you want more bass trade in that amp one more time, but pick one that is 4 ohm stable at ~450 watts.
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Originally Posted by GroovyNeilNeil,Mar 1 2005, 02:15 PM
I'm going to have one sub and I'll be hitting harder than someone with two. It's all about your box, man. The hole that holds your spare tire accessories is easily 2 cubes...but if you drop a sub in there and seal it then you'll get no sound up front. Now the smart thing to do is to glass the entire trunk and have a slot port going up where the spare tire is supposed to be. Keep in mind I'm more for SPL over SQ any day.
If you want your car to go fast, don't get a system. If you want to hit hard, your car won't go fast. Pick one.
I have:
1 Kicker Solo X 12(dual 2 ohm)
1 Kicker KX1200.1
1 Kicker KX450.2
Pair of Kicker Resolution RS6 components
1 Pioneer DEH-P8600MP
1 Optima Yellow Top Battery
36 SQ FT Dynamat Xtreme
Just need:
150 amp Amptech alternator
Fiberglass box
If you want your car to go fast, don't get a system. If you want to hit hard, your car won't go fast. Pick one.
I have:
1 Kicker Solo X 12(dual 2 ohm)
1 Kicker KX1200.1
1 Kicker KX450.2
Pair of Kicker Resolution RS6 components
1 Pioneer DEH-P8600MP
1 Optima Yellow Top Battery
36 SQ FT Dynamat Xtreme
Just need:
150 amp Amptech alternator
Fiberglass box
Can you post pictures of your system please?
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Why take anyone's word for it about power or biamping?
Audiobahn on them. if you were talking reference quality systems in a completely sound deadened car w/ major investments in amplifiers, crossovers, etc. maybe, biamping would be something to think about. i've got close to $20k invested in my home theatre system... of that more than half is just my CD to preamp to amp to speaker chain.... and I don't have biamps on my 2 main speakers.... and they alone cost more than your whole system.biamping 2 $500 MB Quarts is a waste of time and money.
What size single? I'll be at the track on Sunday and I have two 8" subs installed. The WLaurent boxes remove in 30 seconds.
1 sub? fine... not a big problem, even if 2 8" subs + enclosures would probably weigh less than 1 larger sub + enclosure...
but we can easily work w/ 1 sub only.GroovyNeilNeil:
Pete has already stated he wants use of the well for holding a changed tire if needed. no sub in the center well... still, based on your listout, i can easily see you're an SPL fan...
regarding a custom 10" enclosure... check out this enclosure that was posted on the photos thread:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?act=m...md=si&img=30020
i'm sure that enclosure has quite a bit of volume. and i'm sure that John (DarkKnight) can build you something sweet that looks better than this...
i hate to say it, but an extension tube from the front of Williams box kinda sounds... *looks around* ghetto. (i don't mean offense......)
Finally, 300 watts RMS is fine in an S2000 with a sealed box. You will still get plenty of bass -- likely enough to rattle the heck out of your trunk. If you want more bass trade in that amp one more time, but pick one that is 4 ohm stable at ~450 watts.
