oh, and as far as suggesting a sweet sub...

check out the JL 10W6v2. this sub will POUND, looks very clean and understated, fits in a .625 cu ft sealed enclosure (recommended. range is .5 to 1.0 cu ft.) , and can easily handle 600 Wrms @ 2 ohms. it can be readily dialed back a bit to get good SQ, and dialed up for SPL as well.

http://www.jlaudio.com/subwoofers/10w6v2.html



it is well known i'm partial to JL subs. they are a bit pricey, but they are good solid equipment.

also, check out Adire subs, and Eclipse subs as well...

 

You're quoting me out of context there (although I agree 100%). My point was that I have offered Pete to listen to my system three times and he has ignored me. For someone as picky and return-prone as him it is sound (d'oh, bad pun) advice to actually listen to systems before following advice from electronics shop with a vested interest or from people here with personal preferences. My point specifically in that phrase was that if he heard my system he would not even consider biamping. There would be absolutely no benefit. So same end result, different logic

^ Can't believe I forgot about JL. That's a better sub for you, Pete, than PPI. I was also trying to think of Adire audio. Alumapro's are exceptional as well but the specs are not exactly right for what you mentioned above. If I remember right the star of the Alumapro range is the 12", but maybe the 10" is better with this new-ish line.

 

didn't mean to misquote you.... i stand corrected. you're right, demonstrating how good a system can sound w/o biamping is a great idea.


and Pete - it is 100% in your best interest to go hear some systems.

at least it seems you live in an area w/ lots of good systems around. i'm pretty much the big kid on the block around here...

 

I just read the new posts. Thanks for the great info. I've got a lot to say, but no time to say it. I'll probably be up most of the night prepping for my case tomorrow. (I only sleep 3 or 4 hours per night, as it is.) I've got do do anesthesia for a spinal laminectomy & fusion scheduled for 8 hours 15 min! I haven't even done ANY spine cases yet- my neuro rotation isn't until next month!!

It's crap like this that keeps me from coming over and checking out your system. I am looking forward to it, so I'll let you know when I have a little spare time.

I really like the JL, and I'm not worried about the cost, but I think that sub is just too damn big! How much does that thing weigh? I may have to have some kind of weight limit as, well.



I don't mind running 300W @ 4 ohms, if it won't be inadequate in comparison to the setup in the cabin. When the Quarts are cranking, I definitely want the sub to keep up!

My only logic for going with 600W @ 2 ohms is that I don't want to cut my power and investment in half. Since this is the amp I have, I'm trying to maximize it's potential.

I was NEVER considering biamping!

-Pete

 

Just received this from MBQ USA (about the QSD 216):


Response (Fred Smith) - 03/02/2005 09:50 AM

Pete,

Thank you for contacting us. It can take 170 watts rms. We did not do a
peak power rating on these.


I'm listening to you guys, but I don't see what was wrong with 150W per channel to the Quarts.

You don't even have to explain (you probably already did). I'm not planning to change amps again for a while.

-Pete

 

the lack of a statement such as this was mainly what was wrong.


i think the pic you have is the JL 10W7. the link i had posted for the 10W6v2 had detailed specs on depth, volume, excursion, etc. i'm at work and rushing, so i don't have time to check and repost here. iirc, the 10W6 was in the 6.25" range.

(*correction*) 6.9" depth

 

[QUOTE=PJK3,Mar 4 2005, 12:47 PM]i think the pic you have is the JL 10W7.

 

oh -- silly me. he's measuring the thickness of the mounting flange. that's not appropriate. mounting depth is from the bottom of the mounting flange. my bad. i should have caught that. subtract out the 5/8" thickness of the flange, and your 7.5" measurement shown there, and you'll be mightly close to 6.9".

weight? i'm sure it isn't light... i'd guesstimate in the 10lb range. still probably in the same ball park as most of the other subs suggested in this thread.

a sub this deep will still easily fit into a custom box and i'm sure a custom box builder would be able to work it in. i know for sure i asked John if he could fit me a 10W6v2 6.9" depth in a box in the side well location w/ .625 cubes, and he said no prob. ask him to quote you one, you may be surprised at what he can do, and how much it will cost you relative to what you're already planning to spend.


and technically... you WERE considering biamping. you just didn't know what it was OR that you were even doing it... however, it's long since settled that you don't WANT to do it.

 

oh, just stumbled across this thread:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=273012

while i'm more familiar w/ the sound quality of the 10W6v2 over the Kappa Perfect subs, these are a fantastic deal and a good sub to boot. i think Willie Gee is running a Kappa Perfect VQ in his car.


top mount depth: 6-1/2"
sealed box volume: 0.3-1.0 cu. ft.

only thing i see is that these are 4 ohm SVC.

 

Pete, I changed my mind about the cap. 950 watts RMS with the car at idle dims the interior lights noticably at modarate volumes. I just discovered this for the first time right now when I was trying to fix an idle problem. A cap is now definitely on my list of things to do. You may want to (re)consider one while you're still planning your high current system.

Hope that helps