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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,Dec 27 2004, 01:08 PM
...The s2000 tire on the side of the road takes about 1/2 an hour to change (if its the rear) at least...
Sorry but I'm having trouble picturing this. Was it intended only for people who have their spare in the car?

Let's say I'm riding without the spare and I get a flat. What will AAA do for me once they arrive at my location?

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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mikes2k,Dec 27 2004, 05:07 PM
What is this "spare" you all keep referring to?
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dierk,Dec 27 2004, 08:16 PM
Sorry but I'm having trouble picturing this. Was it intended only for people who have their spare in the car?

Let's say I'm riding without the spare and I get a flat. What will AAA do for me once they arrive at my location?
Ummmm....tow you home.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 06:20 AM
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Actually, request a flatbed...your baby will be safer...and no rock chips!




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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,Dec 27 2004, 05:18 PM
Ummmm....tow you home.
Thanks, NFRS2000NYC. Just wanted to confirm there's nothing AAA can do for me on the spot if I don't have the spare. A tow to somewhere will be my only option.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 01:00 AM
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[QUOTE=NFRs2000NYC,Dec 14 2004, 03:15 AM]Turbo....not to hate, but HUGE thumbs down on the setup.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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[QUOTE=Farkey,Dec 29 2004, 05:00 AM] I'm a little late to the party on this reply here, but this comment really rubbed me the wrong way, because there absolutely IS a reason for such an install, and that's SQ.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 02:19 AM
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While using analogies about a completely dissimilar listening environment like home theater doesn't seem to make much sense, you only proved my point.

Ever wonder why subs in movie theaters are behind the screen, and not in the middle of the room?
With total freedom in a purpose-built environment, of course you would locate your subs as close to the same horizontal-axis as possible to the rest of your speakers, since this is ideal for the soundstage. A footwell or dash-mounted sub would similarly provide you with an up-front soundstage, while one in the trunk does not.

EVer wonder when you make a $10000 home theater setup, you put your subwoofer in the corner, or under the floor even, instead of on the couch with you??? Because in the corner near 2 walls, the vibrations transfer better.
Corner-loaded locations provide the greatest SPL, and keep you from tripping over your oddly located subwoofer, NOT necessarily the most accurate or flat response.

It's funny you mention putting the sub on the couch with you, since that's pretty close to the first place your home theater sub should go. To properly place a HT sub, you put it in your normal listening location, and then move around the room (normally crawling like an idiot so you aren't off-axis) and find the spot (or spots) where the bass sounds best, then you move your sub to one of those locations.

Since you like the HT analogy... would you put your sub in the next room from where you listen? Or behind your listening position (hint: In most cases, the absolute worst place to put a sub)?

[QUOTE]Bass is made to be felt, not heard.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Farkey,Dec 30 2004, 06:19 AM
While using analogies about a completely dissimilar listening environment like home theater doesn't seem to make much sense, you only proved my point.


With total freedom in a purpose-built environment, of course you would locate your subs as close to the same horizontal-axis as possible to the rest of your speakers, since this is ideal for the soundstage. A footwell or dash-mounted sub would similarly provide you with an up-front soundstage, while one in the trunk does not.


Corner-loaded locations provide the greatest SPL, and keep you from tripping over your oddly located subwoofer, NOT necessarily the most accurate or flat response.

It's funny you mention putting the sub on the couch with you, since that's pretty close to the first place your home theater sub should go. To properly place a HT sub, you put it in your normal listening location, and then move around the room (normally crawling like an idiot so you aren't off-axis) and find the spot (or spots) where the bass sounds best, then you move your sub to one of those locations.

Since you like the HT analogy... would you put your sub in the next room from where you listen? Or behind your listening position (hint: In most cases, the absolute worst place to put a sub)?


Since the proper place to put a sub in a car is the trunk, we'll just call all those guys that hack up their interior to place up-front subs who compete (and win) SQ competitions a bunch of morons.

All that being said, what really matters in any audio setup is how it sounds to your own ears. If you like the way your trunk-mounted sub sounds, that's great. But declaring it to be the proper and only way of doing things when that is so far from the truth just doesn't make sense.
Started a new thread on this, so we dont clog this one up.
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jahnke,May 10 2004, 07:52 PM
Another nice system pic....not mine though.

Does anyone know what size Eclispe sub that is? And what kind of grill they are using?
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