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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,Dec 27 2004, 03:08 PM
The Qs are the only MBQuarts I would consider for my car. However, for 700 bucks retail, and 400+ street price, I honestly think they are not worth it. DOnt get me wrong, they are great speakers, and are fantastic quality, but its just not for me. I will never say anything negative about the Qs, except that they are hella bright, but I love that.

Phil.....while I agree with you about moving your amps and such, its still *not* a 100% solution. Too many variables. What if its pouring??? You are really going to go outside, and move your system around just so you can change a tire???

You all have s2000s, spend the 40 bucks a year and get AAA. Save yourselves a bunch of headaches. The s2000 tire on the side of the road takes about 1/2 an hour to change (if its the rear) at least.
flitcroft -- if you like the MB Quarts, then i'm very happy for you. no sarcasm, no mal-intent. they just aren't for me. i found them to be harshly abrasive and metallic in the highs and lifeless for midrange. but then again, that's just an opinion, and just my opinion. still, massive tweeter attenuation might bring life to them, i just wasn't inspired enough to invest that much time into them.


no, moving my amps and juggling all that is not a 100% solution, but it's 100% better than yours if you need a fast change. as best i can tell, i should be able to make that move in less than 5 minutes, once i have the spare out (i have slack in all cables for it). seriously though, chances are if i don't have to be somewhere out of dire need, i'll just call the tow truck and flat bed it home, swap out wheels, and go. my car insurance pays for tows up to 150 miles (Hondacare goes 300 miles i think), and it costs me $2 a month.

and God forbid any of us have luggage -- even if we're stock, a flat means we're hosed.

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Actually, request a flatbed...your baby will be safer...and no rock chips!
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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Hi everybody,

I just completed the installation of my new amplifier on PAS2KNUT's amp cover. Here are some pictures of the work in progress and the final result. Thanks to pas2knut for uploading the pictures.

This first picture shows some details of the wiring. I already had a professionally installed amplifier in my trunk. When adding the second amp, I wanted to disturb the professional work as little as possible. On the left you can see the grounding points for each of the two amps (separate but close to each other). On the right you can see a 4 awg "T" block that connects both amps to the +12V cable from the battery. Above you can see some speaker wire as well as the blue turnon lead that goes to the back of the head unit.



This next picture shows the connections between the amps. The yellow cable is RCA cable. It routes the passthrough preamp output of the first amp in the tool well to the left and right RCA inputs of the amp I'm adding. A little harder to see is some speaker cable that connects the remote turnon terminal of the first amp to the 2nd amp's turnon terminal. Since the pros already took care of running a turnon lead to behind the head unit (see blue wire in above picture), all I needed to turn the 2nd amp on was this "jumper" cable.



This next picture shows the signal input side of the new amp. There's nothing unusual here. I'm only posting it for your information. I took a picture of the power and speaker output side of the amp but it came out even more blurry than this one so I won't trouble you with it.



This last picture gives you the final, "buttoned up" look of the installation. Besides the new amp, this picture features PAS2KNUT's excellent flat cover. I am very happy with the cover and with the overall look of the install.



Things still left to do:

- devise a way to protect the exposed wiring
- build the enclosure to contain the sub that the new amp will power

Enjoy the photos and don't hold back your questions and comments.

Thanks for looking.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PJK3,Jan 2 2005, 01:46 PM
flitcroft -- if you like the MB Quarts, then i'm very happy for you. no sarcasm, no mal-intent. they just aren't for me. i found them to be harshly abrasive and metallic in the highs and lifeless for midrange. but then again, that's just an opinion, and just my opinion. still, massive tweeter attenuation might bring life to them, i just wasn't inspired enough to invest that much time into them.
I knew that I'm just defending a spectacular product. They are very expensive, yes. They are hard to tune and can be harsh, yes. They are not for everyone in this car, yes.

BUT, they sound AMAZING when you get them all settled and dialed in. For people wanting audiophile sound they are a definite must for auditioning. Hey, most people buy powered decks and think $1k should buy you a car, not a stereo. For your effort with the Quarts you will be greatly rewarded.

Second up I'd pick the Focals but for my ears they are lacking in highs and lows and don't produce the midrange sound I like (a bit too warm for me). I know people on the board love that sound, but it's not for me. That's what makes it so fun to compare our toys.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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I've had quarts that I loved but that was years ago...

I think that telling people what kind of speakers they'd like is like telling them which pizza toppings are good.

certainly there are more accurate speakers, and a ton of ways to measure sound waves, but if you like the way a speaker sounds more than another, that's your call.

I just believe that how good music sounds (or, for that matter; the quality of a lover) is a qualitative not quantitative decision. That is, you can throw away your math and measurements because some pizzas are better than others, but we'll never all agree on which one is the best.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 05:16 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen,

To debate the pros and cons of MB Quarts, may I suggest starting a separate thread? In this thread I was hoping to receive some comments about my recent amp install pictured above.

Thanks.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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Im kinda new to s2ki. I just wanna know how i can get my hands on an wlaurent sub box. And how much are they?
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Valenzuelala,Jan 5 2005, 07:33 PM
Im kinda new to s2ki. I just wanna know how i can get my hands on an wlaurent sub box. And how much are they?
Click here Then click on sub enclosures. They are $175 for one or $330 for two.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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mmm... pizza.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PJK3,Jan 5 2005, 08:02 PM
mmm... pizza.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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dierk-> what are you planning on doing for your sub? what kind of enclosure (Wlaurent i suppose) and what kind of driver? I think you have a very clean install, and i'd like to see the whole set-up when you are done.
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