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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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i have a vafc2 with pnp harness for sale for 300 shipped of you need one =]
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchow69,Feb 16 2010, 09:35 PM
I think you are over thinking my statement, it really meant for this particular case where he can't go too wrong with AEM. If he really is on a limited budget and bought a header instead, he might be wondering what he could be doing with the AEM.....

It's all about choice, if you know you lean a particular way (after the usual logics), go with it.
I still disagree. I think the AEM EMS would be a total waste UNLESS he already has several of the best bolt-ons. If he is nearly stock, then the benefits of the EMS over a VAFC will be too small to justify the price difference. Note that this is an AP1, which responds very well to the VAFC.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by hypforlife32,Feb 16 2010, 11:27 PM
i have a vafc2 with pnp harness for sale for 300 shipped of you need one =]
thdrew, I would really consider purchasing this used. If you decide to turn around, and sell it later, you could probably get the same amount for it again.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 08:06 AM
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[QUOTE=gernby,Feb 17 2010, 07:18 AM] I still disagree.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by UMS Tuning,Feb 17 2010, 11:06 AM


And I disagree with you.....standalone allows for great gains...

We had a 100% stock 2004 AP2 on Kpro make consistant 220whp and 160ft/lbs with a cooled off run of 228whp.... the previous best for a 100% stock 04-05 AP2 on our dyno was 195whp..............

While an AP1 wont make as much do to the lower displacement...it would still be a decent and healthy gain over stock...much more so than a simple VAFC which can't control timing
Your post doesn't seem to disagree with me really. I agree that a standalone will give great gains. However, I'm also saying that the AP1, which is tuned very differently than the AP2 from the factory, also gets very good gains from a VAFC. Sean Church was consistantly achieving 220's on his DynaPack by tuning AP1's with a VAFC, and my lightly modded AP1 put down as high as 214 on a DynoJet with a piggy back similar to a VAFC. Again, my point is that the EMS is 3 to 4 times the cost including tuning, but will only give a few more HP on a nearly stock AP1. I would not try to make the same argument if he had a good combination of I/H/TP/E, especially if it was an AP2.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 08:45 AM
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Also, don't forget that the VAFC also doesn't cause the headaches that you have to go through for state inspection.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 09:05 AM
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[QUOTE=gernby,Feb 17 2010, 09:40 AM] Your post doesn't seem to disagree with me really.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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It would help to know what bold-ons thdrew has. Here is my dyno plot from before and after tuning with my custom piggy back that works similarly to a VAFC. Before and after were on the same dyno / same day. My bolt-ons consisted of an AEM V1 and a TP.

BTW, I consider swapping the ECU out once a year for inspection to be a headache. Of course, I'm not a small guy, so it was a significant PITA just for me to get the part number off my '08 ECU a couple months ago.



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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 04:02 PM
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May I add AEM also give you other functionality such as launch control, custom dail back on rev limiter...

Some ppl just like to fiddle with parameters more than just a bolt on... It's not really like this will be his final mod...we all know once the mod bug is in, it quite hard to get it out.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Evans Tuning,Feb 24 2010, 06:25 AM
The injector phasing tables netted me 7 whp increase alone.
Injector phasing? Is this advancing or retarding the injector pulse, like you would with ignition? I guess there is no way to do this with a FlashPro, is there?
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