Hondata Flashpro on my macbook without windows
Sir it's not about making things for what's being used for majority! 88% of the computers might be using windows but that doesn't justify anything, 65% of those computers are out of united states, another 5% are used in schools and work offices.
If Honda produced front bumper replacement for only berlina black and gpw and not for laguna blue bcuz it's the 4% of the Honda s2000, what would the owners say. I'm a hondata owner and you simply don't serve well
It's about making things available for everybody, yes you don't support Mac OS that's why my tuner is still using Windows laptop and I can't hook my computer up, if you also have the Mac version available maybe he will use his Mac laptop. But it's not available. Practically everybody is being forced to use windows And not a choise thing.
I wish windows laptops battery lasted for 10 hours like my MacBook, I wish they were running as fast as Mac laptops
I'm not a Mac obssesed dude but c'mon give us a chance to choose and not force to what to use.
You guys are such a smart company, please bring this subject in one of your meetings , take your customers words seriously and proceed forwards from their feedbacks!
Listen your customers, if your boss thinks that I'm dumb and stupid, bring him this article
Here's What Happens When You Don't Listen To Your Customers' Complaints
Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/...#ixzz1zXdog9DL
http://articles.businessinsider.com/...ves-complaints
Thanks and I finish my arguement here
If Honda produced front bumper replacement for only berlina black and gpw and not for laguna blue bcuz it's the 4% of the Honda s2000, what would the owners say. I'm a hondata owner and you simply don't serve well
It's about making things available for everybody, yes you don't support Mac OS that's why my tuner is still using Windows laptop and I can't hook my computer up, if you also have the Mac version available maybe he will use his Mac laptop. But it's not available. Practically everybody is being forced to use windows And not a choise thing.
I wish windows laptops battery lasted for 10 hours like my MacBook, I wish they were running as fast as Mac laptops
I'm not a Mac obssesed dude but c'mon give us a chance to choose and not force to what to use.
You guys are such a smart company, please bring this subject in one of your meetings , take your customers words seriously and proceed forwards from their feedbacks!
Listen your customers, if your boss thinks that I'm dumb and stupid, bring him this article
Here's What Happens When You Don't Listen To Your Customers' Complaints
Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/...#ixzz1zXdog9DL
http://articles.businessinsider.com/...ves-complaints
Thanks and I finish my arguement here
My reference to the 90's platform was not related to the OS. I was referring to Visual Studio 6, which is what I think FlashPro Manager is developed in. My apologies about the 16 bit thing, but I don't see any evidence that it's multi-threaded. If it is, please put the "Export to CSV" process in a background thread.
dear hondata,
personally speaking, and only related to S2000 FPM; your product has presented many flaws with immature versions. and i got disappointed with the customer service MANY times.
however, i still evaluate FlashPro (for the S) as a great product. that is why myself and many customers go with FP in the end.
a second however is; Hondata is quite harsh about customer feedbacks/requirements etc. so please do not take our feedbacks/evaluations negatively, there is no offense.
OP's saying is a logical statement, because many FP customers are also interested in computers & electronics; and OSX is a rising choice of OS among them. hondata should not evaluate the reality like 90 percent of the computer users run windows, so FP must run only on Windows. many of us are enthusiasts of cars+computers+electronics, i may say that Windows usage ratio is lower than 50-60 percent (I am a Linux user, as an example, and running VirtualBox+Windows XP for FlashPro).
lastly, i feel rather uncomfortable about new versions, rather afraid of upgrading FP and the firmware, due being a Euro-S owner.
please listen to us a little bit more & keep up the good work
personally speaking, and only related to S2000 FPM; your product has presented many flaws with immature versions. and i got disappointed with the customer service MANY times.
however, i still evaluate FlashPro (for the S) as a great product. that is why myself and many customers go with FP in the end.
a second however is; Hondata is quite harsh about customer feedbacks/requirements etc. so please do not take our feedbacks/evaluations negatively, there is no offense.
OP's saying is a logical statement, because many FP customers are also interested in computers & electronics; and OSX is a rising choice of OS among them. hondata should not evaluate the reality like 90 percent of the computer users run windows, so FP must run only on Windows. many of us are enthusiasts of cars+computers+electronics, i may say that Windows usage ratio is lower than 50-60 percent (I am a Linux user, as an example, and running VirtualBox+Windows XP for FlashPro).
lastly, i feel rather uncomfortable about new versions, rather afraid of upgrading FP and the firmware, due being a Euro-S owner.
please listen to us a little bit more & keep up the good work
Not a fair comparision, as the bumper does not need to be changed to fit. The Hondata program would have to be completely rewritten to work on a Mac. Money they may not feel is worth spending at this point in time.
I love Macs, but Hondata would be stupid to re-write their software to run on a Mac. I highly doubt that they have ever lost a sale due to only running on Windows. Smart Mac owners have a way to run Windows because they realize that there is a ton of software, particularly tuning software, that is Windows only. I don't boot my Mac into Windows every day, but EVERY tuning program I have is Windows only... I have NEVER seen a single one that runs on OS X.
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Tim
It's much easier for users to run Windows on their Macs than it would be for Hondata to re-program their software for OSX.
IMO, it's pretty crappy trying to tell them how to run their business, as long as their products perform as advertised and they provide decent customer support. Do you have any idea how much it costs to re-write software? Combine that w/ likely declining sales trends as Honda's most enthusiast-oriented models are long out of production.
I would love to see FP Manager available on the Mac platform (or even better, if it would run on iOS), but the lack of one didn't deter me from buying my FP. They need to optimize profitability for their shareholders, and I suspect that re-writing FPM for the Mac wouldn't generate the incremental margin needed to justify the expense.
IMO, it's pretty crappy trying to tell them how to run their business, as long as their products perform as advertised and they provide decent customer support. Do you have any idea how much it costs to re-write software? Combine that w/ likely declining sales trends as Honda's most enthusiast-oriented models are long out of production.
I would love to see FP Manager available on the Mac platform (or even better, if it would run on iOS), but the lack of one didn't deter me from buying my FP. They need to optimize profitability for their shareholders, and I suspect that re-writing FPM for the Mac wouldn't generate the incremental margin needed to justify the expense.
It's much easier for users to run Windows on their Macs than it would be for Hondata to re-program their software for OSX.
IMO, it's pretty crappy trying to tell them how to run their business, as long as their products perform as advertised and they provide decent customer support. Do you have any idea how much it costs to re-write software? Combine that w/ likely declining sales trends as Honda's most enthusiast-oriented models are long out of production.
I would love to see FP Manager available on the Mac platform (or even better, if it would run on iOS), but the lack of one didn't deter me from buying my FP. They need to optimize profitability for their shareholders, and I suspect that re-writing FPM for the Mac wouldn't generate the incremental margin needed to justify the expense.
IMO, it's pretty crappy trying to tell them how to run their business, as long as their products perform as advertised and they provide decent customer support. Do you have any idea how much it costs to re-write software? Combine that w/ likely declining sales trends as Honda's most enthusiast-oriented models are long out of production.
I would love to see FP Manager available on the Mac platform (or even better, if it would run on iOS), but the lack of one didn't deter me from buying my FP. They need to optimize profitability for their shareholders, and I suspect that re-writing FPM for the Mac wouldn't generate the incremental margin needed to justify the expense.
Agreed. When I was in school, there was plenty of proprietary software I had to use that was windows only. I sucked it up and used parallels or used the computers in my schools computer labs. Not many companies can justify the expensive or re-writing their software to run on an operating system that fewer people use.
Anyone who's whining about not having some windows software on their laptop ought to look into installing a VM or dual booting windows like everyone else who has this problem. It's nothing new. What's funny is the silly newb OP thought you could just "convert it to mac."
As others said, rewriting software is a very expensive task. I'd much rather hondata keep prices $100 lower vs. coming out with an OSX version that only a handful of people would use.
Dude just get parallels. You're making Mac users look like douches. We can do that well enough on our own.
I tuned my Evo with ECU Flash and Parallels on my MacBook Pro with no issues.
Just to play devil's advocate, Mac's are now up to 12% of market share. Enough to make devs completely re-write software? Probably not.
I tuned my Evo with ECU Flash and Parallels on my MacBook Pro with no issues. Just to play devil's advocate, Mac's are now up to 12% of market share. Enough to make devs completely re-write software? Probably not.
Hondata's software needs to be re-written and reconsidered for Windows not just for other platforms. The user interface and user experience is ancient and could absolutely use an update no matter what platform we are talking about. One window full of a bunch of oddly organized floating windows is not exactly a joy to use.
I realize a re-write isn't trivial, but it would absolutely be worth the expense in my opinion. Work with the people using the software to tune on a daily basis and see what improvements they actually want. Get someone with some UX experience to help design a UI and experience that is intuitive and still powerful.
I realize a re-write isn't trivial, but it would absolutely be worth the expense in my opinion. Work with the people using the software to tune on a daily basis and see what improvements they actually want. Get someone with some UX experience to help design a UI and experience that is intuitive and still powerful.










