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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 09:24 PM
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Default ID 1300 and flashpro

I have a rotrex kit and uploaded the Hondata base supercharger calibration then inputed their ID 1000 map injector voltage data and car started up fine and ran ok although idle was very rich.

I went to ID website and inputed their 1300 injector voltage data and car will not start at all.

Can someone who is running ID 1300 and has been tuned please post up their injector voltage data so I can try and input that in base map before I get tuned. Or better yet email me your calibration for ID 1300 jnjectors. Thanks
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 08:53 PM
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FYI, if you look at any of the Hondata Injector Dynamics basemaps, you will notice a large discrepancy compared to the data on the ID website. There have been a few topics on the Hondata forums about this. Long story short, Hondata claims the ID data is not accurate. I've spoken to the guys at Injector Dynamics about the discrepancy...

Do us a favor, and post up screen grabs of the injector setup page in Flashpro Manager, for both tunes that you've tried.
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 06Estukay
FYI, if you look at any of the Hondata Injector Dynamics basemaps, you will notice a large discrepancy compared to the data on the ID website. There have been a few topics on the Hondata forums about this. Long story short, Hondata claims the ID data is not accurate. I've spoken to the guys at Injector Dynamics about the discrepancy...

Do us a favor, and post up screen grabs of the injector setup page in Flashpro Manager, for both tunes that you've tried.

Here is the Hondata 1000 injector map fuel voltage that will start the car fine. The ID fuel injector values will not start the car meaning they must be way off.
Attached Thumbnails ID 1300 and flashpro-1000-id-fuel.png   ID 1300 and flashpro-id-1300.png  
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 08:40 AM
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Can you post the screenshot of the values you entered into Flashpro for the ID1300's?
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 06Estukay
Can you post the screenshot of the values you entered into Flashpro for the ID1300's?
It is the 50 psi data
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 09:47 PM
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You can't use the data for 50 PSI.

Here's how Tony at ID recommended setting up their injectors in Flashpro...

According to the ID1300 chart, your injector flow @ 43.5 psi (300kpa) is 1340 cc/min. In Flshpro, set the injector size to 1340, and the test pressure remains at 300 kpa accordingly.

The static fuel pressure for 06+ cars is approximately 60 PSI gauge pressure. However at idle, there is high vacuum in your intake manifold. The differential pressure across the injector nozzles at idle is actually around 70 PSI. For your dead times, use the listed values for 70 PSI. 10v = 1980, 12v = 1445, 14v = 1135, 16v = 900. Since ID doesn't have data for 8v, you can interpolate the value until the curve looks consistent. I wouldn't worry too much about the values below 10v anyway.
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