ap1 or ap2
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Originally Posted by Steven2k,Jan 23 2007, 12:35 AM
anybody asking the question, "which model s2k is better?" needs to watch battles at 10,000rpm. that'll answer all your questions. if you cant trust what tsuchiya san has to say about the ap2, i dont kno what to tell you.
the most important thing to remember is this. it doesn't matter which model you get. you will have a hell of time driving either model.
the most important thing to remember is this. it doesn't matter which model you get. you will have a hell of time driving either model.
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the 2.2 in the ap2 will spool the turbo more quickly. Additionally the due to the displacement increase you will make more power. Not a huge amount but its still measurable. Stock to Stock the 2.2 makes about 5-15whp MORE than the ap1 2.0, Add boost and things get even more fun.
9k is fun and all but honestly WHY if you can make more power sooner? Especially in the much needed TQ department.
9k is fun and all but honestly WHY if you can make more power sooner? Especially in the much needed TQ department.
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Originally Posted by Justin Yoo,Jan 24 2007, 12:35 AM
seems like there are many different opinions. does anyone actually know which one is better for FI?
do yourself a favor and rent/buy/borrow/steal (jk) battles at 10,000 rpm. ap1 owners will state ap1 and vise versa. tsuchiya san on the other hand is a respected japanese race car driver. if he says ap2 is superior over the ap1 in terms of handeling, that should be good enough for you. if your concern is straight line performance, it doesn't matter which model you get. they're about the same.
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Originally Posted by GrandMasterKhan,Jan 24 2007, 03:37 PM
9k is fun and all but honestly WHY if you can make more power sooner? Especially in the much needed TQ department.
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Originally Posted by Steven2k,Jan 25 2007, 04:52 PM
justin,
do yourself a favor and rent/buy/borrow/steal (jk) battles at 10,000 rpm. ap1 owners will state ap1 and vise versa. tsuchiya san on the other hand is a respected japanese race car driver. if he says ap2 is superior over the ap1 in terms of handeling, that should be good enough for you. if your concern is straight line performance, it doesn't matter which model you get. they're about the same.
do yourself a favor and rent/buy/borrow/steal (jk) battles at 10,000 rpm. ap1 owners will state ap1 and vise versa. tsuchiya san on the other hand is a respected japanese race car driver. if he says ap2 is superior over the ap1 in terms of handeling, that should be good enough for you. if your concern is straight line performance, it doesn't matter which model you get. they're about the same.
I vote '03 AP1,
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this is the most civilized ap1 vs ap2 thread i've read. 8]
do yourself a favor and buy a 04-05 model, swap in a f20c(ap1 engine) and uhhhh...o yea switch out the dash for the jdm o4-o5's. there you go.;]
in terms of handling, ap2's retuned suspension geometry makes it handle better and less tail happy. straight line's the same.
f22c is better for boost. more torque spools the F/I systems faster and there's no replacement for displacement.
seems like i wanted a ap2, for the looks and handling, but im a sucker for 9krpm redline. but honestly, to people that wont track the car weekly, you won't feel much difference between the two cars, except they're both on rails. you'll have fun with either model choice and you won't be disappointed. GL dude
do yourself a favor and buy a 04-05 model, swap in a f20c(ap1 engine) and uhhhh...o yea switch out the dash for the jdm o4-o5's. there you go.;]
in terms of handling, ap2's retuned suspension geometry makes it handle better and less tail happy. straight line's the same.
f22c is better for boost. more torque spools the F/I systems faster and there's no replacement for displacement.
seems like i wanted a ap2, for the looks and handling, but im a sucker for 9krpm redline. but honestly, to people that wont track the car weekly, you won't feel much difference between the two cars, except they're both on rails. you'll have fun with either model choice and you won't be disappointed. GL dude