atp inconel, dei or coat
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you already know my take on it and having used all of the options mentioned, here is a breakdown of the my thoughts on the pros and cons:
Heat wrap/turbo blankets-dei,thermotec, etc:
-Pros: less expensive due to cost of material and the fact that you can install it yourself, even if the parts are installed on your car, which is reason why I think it's attractive to most. can be taken off from one application and applied to another
-cons: Some companies void warranties for wrapping their products. said to trap moisture in, thus accelerating wear on metal components. potentially catching fire due to possibility of absorbing flammable materials (oil). adds a little bit of thickness, could be bad for tight tolerance areas. could come off due to fasteners loosening or whatever attaches the wrap breaks. Turbo exhaust blankets usually deteriorate the first time you remove them, incurring the cost of another.
Coatings-swaintech, jet hot:
-Pros: Thinner, doesn't add much thickness to component coated. Can be painted over by color of preference. Swaintech white lightning used for the pagani zonda
-Cons: Some companies void warranties for coating of their products. Downtime. Cannot do it on your own, would have to send it in which incur more costs due to shipping. Flaking of coating, leading to unattractive appearance ( my jet hot coating started flaking half a year after having it). Cannot be reused or transferred. Hard to modify metal component if an o2 bung needs to be installed or pipes need to be cut or welded to.
Metal shield/wrap
-Pros: Supposed to be best heat insulation and for convection heat management to adjacent components via an air barrier. member sarek here used the swaintech white lightning coating and was melting his driver's side motor mount bushings. used the inconel wrap to remedy this. Long-lasting. Will not deteriorate over time, should last the life of the car. Mainly the route that OEMs go for heat management of their exhaust components
-Cons: Cost, especially if using inconel. Custom made to application which incurs shipping costs and downtime. because of this, it can also not be transferred to another application unless it's the same/similar component. Adds a little thickness to parts. Isn't as aesthetically pleasing? (preference).
Heat wrap/turbo blankets-dei,thermotec, etc:
-Pros: less expensive due to cost of material and the fact that you can install it yourself, even if the parts are installed on your car, which is reason why I think it's attractive to most. can be taken off from one application and applied to another
-cons: Some companies void warranties for wrapping their products. said to trap moisture in, thus accelerating wear on metal components. potentially catching fire due to possibility of absorbing flammable materials (oil). adds a little bit of thickness, could be bad for tight tolerance areas. could come off due to fasteners loosening or whatever attaches the wrap breaks. Turbo exhaust blankets usually deteriorate the first time you remove them, incurring the cost of another.
Coatings-swaintech, jet hot:
-Pros: Thinner, doesn't add much thickness to component coated. Can be painted over by color of preference. Swaintech white lightning used for the pagani zonda
-Cons: Some companies void warranties for coating of their products. Downtime. Cannot do it on your own, would have to send it in which incur more costs due to shipping. Flaking of coating, leading to unattractive appearance ( my jet hot coating started flaking half a year after having it). Cannot be reused or transferred. Hard to modify metal component if an o2 bung needs to be installed or pipes need to be cut or welded to.
Metal shield/wrap
-Pros: Supposed to be best heat insulation and for convection heat management to adjacent components via an air barrier. member sarek here used the swaintech white lightning coating and was melting his driver's side motor mount bushings. used the inconel wrap to remedy this. Long-lasting. Will not deteriorate over time, should last the life of the car. Mainly the route that OEMs go for heat management of their exhaust components
-Cons: Cost, especially if using inconel. Custom made to application which incurs shipping costs and downtime. because of this, it can also not be transferred to another application unless it's the same/similar component. Adds a little thickness to parts. Isn't as aesthetically pleasing? (preference).
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I don't agree.. Inconel super alloy won't just out live the life of my car, but also keep temps way cooler then $200 dei wrap.. Inconel cost over a thousand dollars + at turbosource, ATP etc. I'm sure there is a reason the exotic super alloy cost way more then dei blankets that eventually deteriorate and become disposable. I looked at some heat wrap reviews and there are some horror stories.. F it, I'm gonna go with all 3! Inconel, ceramic coat and dei titanium wrap. I cannot stand the way the inconel looks (ugly imo) so I will just purchase inconel for my components that are not really noticeable. I will def get the inconel shield for down pipe since it isn't really noticeable due to the fact that the dp is under the car. And truthfully, the inconel looks horrible on the top mount fb sidewinder, but looks good on the turbine housing (tight and snugged design the same shape as the turbine housing). So inconel for dp and turbo housing and beautiful DEI titanium wrapped for my tubular full blown sidewinder. To me the titanium dei looks like a beautiful shiny bronze ish carbon fiber kevlar look. Plus I seen the titanium wrap on some nice lookin show cars and 40k harley Davidson bikes. Any thoughts on my final decision? Is all three over kill? Will it worth to just buy the inconel for dp and housing and not the manifold? I'm def getting mani ceramic coated and wrapped. Any suggestions. Thnks
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From: Roc
Oy Vey 
So do you actually care how any of this performs? Or is this car just going to sit in parking lots looking pretty? You seem to care an awful lot how others will perceive what it looks like, this is the wrong sub forum on this board for finding people that are going to share that mentality with you.
Swaintech VS places like Jethot shouldn't even be compared.
Swaintech offers the only TRUE ceramic coating, and it is miles beyond the other paint based "ceramics" on the market. The Swaintech is a 3 stage coating and can end up as thick as .015" and offers 35-55% reduction in radiant heat. You're not getting that anywhere else short of Inconel.
I have my forward facing manifold coated with white lightning and would do it again in a heart beat.
My advice to you, stop caring what the ricers think, and worry about what will actually perform.
So do you actually care how any of this performs? Or is this car just going to sit in parking lots looking pretty? You seem to care an awful lot how others will perceive what it looks like, this is the wrong sub forum on this board for finding people that are going to share that mentality with you.
Swaintech VS places like Jethot shouldn't even be compared.
Swaintech offers the only TRUE ceramic coating, and it is miles beyond the other paint based "ceramics" on the market. The Swaintech is a 3 stage coating and can end up as thick as .015" and offers 35-55% reduction in radiant heat. You're not getting that anywhere else short of Inconel.
I have my forward facing manifold coated with white lightning and would do it again in a heart beat.
My advice to you, stop caring what the ricers think, and worry about what will actually perform.
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Oy Vey
So do you actually care how any of this performs? Or is this car just going to sit in parking lots looking pretty? You seem to care an awful lot how others will perceive what it looks like, this is the wrong sub forum on this board for finding people that are going to share that mentality with you.
Swaintech VS places like Jethot shouldn't even be compared.
Swaintech offers the only TRUE ceramic coating, and it is miles beyond the other paint based "ceramics" on the market. The Swaintech is a 3 stage coating and can end up as thick as .015" and offers 35-55% reduction in radiant heat. You're not getting that anywhere else short of Inconel.
I have my forward facing manifold coated with white lightning and would do it again in a heart beat.
My advice to you, stop caring what the ricers think, and worry about what will actually perform.
So do you actually care how any of this performs? Or is this car just going to sit in parking lots looking pretty? You seem to care an awful lot how others will perceive what it looks like, this is the wrong sub forum on this board for finding people that are going to share that mentality with you.
Swaintech VS places like Jethot shouldn't even be compared.
Swaintech offers the only TRUE ceramic coating, and it is miles beyond the other paint based "ceramics" on the market. The Swaintech is a 3 stage coating and can end up as thick as .015" and offers 35-55% reduction in radiant heat. You're not getting that anywhere else short of Inconel.
I have my forward facing manifold coated with white lightning and would do it again in a heart beat.
My advice to you, stop caring what the ricers think, and worry about what will actually perform.
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ATP inconel will be the best solution for a daily driven, high horsepower (turbo) S2000, in my opinion. DEI wraps (and similar) will simply not last as long as the aforementioned option. Your correlations in this thread are simply incorrect; ex. 'the highest horsepower cars don't use ATP wrap, so why should I' Suffice it to say, the highest horsepower S2000's are not street cars. I would also suggest foregoing the bling parts (ARC, J's, Mugen, et al)
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when i first got the mainifold
new back housing
swaintech
swaintech
first coat of black 2000 degree paint
first coat of black 2000 
on the car look...if u notice my wastegate lines run under my back housing about an inch-1.5 inches of space between the back housing and the lines never melted..ive tracked my car driven on the street( car only comes out on weekends) never had a problem...if ur doing it for looks paint it whatever color u want