Elda Engineering Turbo Kit
from looking at the components of the kit and listening to what wael has had to say, i'm going to go ahead and say that this looks to be the best forced induction option available for our cars.
and for anyone who says $6k is too much for this kit, how can you argue with 184 additional rwhp for only $6k?! this isn't peaky hp like the supercharger kits you guys love for some reason, this will give you power from 3,500 rpms to redline.
wael, this looks like a VERY well engineered kit and not just some bling bling "hey look i have a turbo on my honda" kit. i'm looking forward to seeing some charts and numbers with this setup. this is the first kit for this car that i would actually consider buying. very nice job guys.
and for anyone who says $6k is too much for this kit, how can you argue with 184 additional rwhp for only $6k?! this isn't peaky hp like the supercharger kits you guys love for some reason, this will give you power from 3,500 rpms to redline.
wael, this looks like a VERY well engineered kit and not just some bling bling "hey look i have a turbo on my honda" kit. i'm looking forward to seeing some charts and numbers with this setup. this is the first kit for this car that i would actually consider buying. very nice job guys.
$6k isn't too much for this kit. Air/water IC setups aren't cheap. The kit is including a BB turbo from what I understand. He's getting everything tested for CARB. It's definately worth the $6k.
Air/water has been proven time and time again to not be as good as a air/air on a road course.
It's also pretty clear to me that half the people here just want a kit that's made by you Wael as they dont really care much about what it's got except that you're giving lots of info that they dont understand and that it might go phsssst when they let off the throttle. So just go and sell the kit. One of the worst traits of an engineer is when you try to perfect it too much and end up over-engineering it. Which only ends up giving more problems.
Auto manufacturers dont include FMIC's because of frontal crash damage. People who drive Mercedes and Jaguar are the elder. The are pretty much known to not be able to drive and especially park. In a minor bump or parking and running into a SUV's hitch (which will happen quite often) the front mount WILL get damaged. Insurance companies will go crazy. It also makes it more difficult to pass crash tests which is one thing that kept the EVO from coming to the states.
Air/water has been proven time and time again to not be as good as a air/air on a road course.
It's also pretty clear to me that half the people here just want a kit that's made by you Wael as they dont really care much about what it's got except that you're giving lots of info that they dont understand and that it might go phsssst when they let off the throttle. So just go and sell the kit. One of the worst traits of an engineer is when you try to perfect it too much and end up over-engineering it. Which only ends up giving more problems.
Auto manufacturers dont include FMIC's because of frontal crash damage. People who drive Mercedes and Jaguar are the elder. The are pretty much known to not be able to drive and especially park. In a minor bump or parking and running into a SUV's hitch (which will happen quite often) the front mount WILL get damaged. Insurance companies will go crazy. It also makes it more difficult to pass crash tests which is one thing that kept the EVO from coming to the states.
i don't understand what the big deal is about the a/w intercooler. he said it's made countless back to back dyno pulls and the intake charges are still only a few degrees above ambient. if this is true and can be verified by customers who buy the kit, then the ic is working great. a dyno is the worst possible place for any kind of intercooler because the airflow past the heat exchanger is almost never what it would be on the highway.
as long as there is enough water in the reservoir and the heat exchanger is doing its job, then the water going thorough the intercooler should always be within a few degrees of ambient.
as long as the water in the ic isn't hot, then a proper a/w intercooler is ALWAYS going to be better than a properly designed a/a intercooler. less intercooler piping, less pressure drop, and more efficient heat exchange. this means less lag, less work for your turbo to achieve a set psi, and cooler intake charges.
but this is all just theory. as long as the ic works like he says it does, then there's no reason to be so concerned. i wish everyone would just hold on a couple of months to see it in action on actual customers cars before they start flipping out about it. because until then, this is all just based on what we believe to be common knowledge and rules of thumb.
as long as there is enough water in the reservoir and the heat exchanger is doing its job, then the water going thorough the intercooler should always be within a few degrees of ambient.
as long as the water in the ic isn't hot, then a proper a/w intercooler is ALWAYS going to be better than a properly designed a/a intercooler. less intercooler piping, less pressure drop, and more efficient heat exchange. this means less lag, less work for your turbo to achieve a set psi, and cooler intake charges.
but this is all just theory. as long as the ic works like he says it does, then there's no reason to be so concerned. i wish everyone would just hold on a couple of months to see it in action on actual customers cars before they start flipping out about it. because until then, this is all just based on what we believe to be common knowledge and rules of thumb.
Originally Posted by kane.s2k,Dec 1 2004, 08:36 AM
Auto manufacturers dont include FMIC's because of frontal crash damage. People who drive Mercedes and Jaguar are the elder. The are pretty much known to not be able to drive and especially park. In a minor bump or parking and running into a SUV's hitch (which will happen quite often) the front mount WILL get damaged. Insurance companies will go crazy. It also makes it more difficult to pass crash tests which is one thing that kept the EVO from coming to the states.




