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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 05TurboS2k,Mar 26 2008, 02:06 PM
its terrible on all s2000's sorry to hate.
You seem to be mis-informed. With the proper setup there have been S2000s cutting 1.4s - 1.5s in the 60ft. There is hardly a traction issue with those types of times, and those times are in fact better than what some AWD cars are achieving.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 05TurboS2k,Mar 26 2008, 10:13 AM
Just some thoughts, and some is opinion, some is fact. Oh as far as ARP Studs vs. OEM bolts. I would go OEM bolts, unless you want more then 14psi..... In which case you should and have to go ARP to keep the head from possibly floating. ...IMO
Completely untrue...


The only person to mention head float was cody from lovefab a couple of YEARS ago back when no one boosted the s2k. Since then, its been proved overall OEM bolts are more reliable then ARP studs.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Mar 26 2008, 04:09 PM
The only person to mention head float was cody from lovefab a couple of YEARS ago back when no one boosted the s2k. Since then, its been proved overall OEM bolts are more reliable then ARP studs.
I wouldn't go so far as saying "its been proved overall OEM bolts are more reliable then ARP studs". I am going to say now what I've been saying from the very beginning--any problems found after installing ARP head studs are primarily attributed to installation error. Most people installing these studs on their S2000 have not torqued them properly, have not used the supplied moly lube, and haven't retorqued the studs after heat cycling.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 2QYK4U,Mar 26 2008, 07:27 PM
I wouldn't go so far as saying "its been proved overall OEM bolts are more reliable then ARP studs". I am going to say now what I've been saying from the very beginning--any problems found after installing ARP head studs are primarily attributed to installation error. Most people installing these studs on their S2000 have not torqued them properly, have not used the supplied moly lube, and haven't retorqued the studs after heat cycling.
Notice I never specified how the ARP studs failed

I'm aware they fail a lot due to improper installation, but if 9/10 people can't install them correctly, why chance it?
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Mar 26 2008, 06:41 PM
Notice I never specified how the ARP studs failed

I'm aware they fail a lot due to improper installation, but if 9/10 people can't install them correctly, why chance it?
You didn't state that they failed, but you mentioned something about OEM head studs proving more reliable. That simply isn't the case.

10/10 people should be able to install them correctly. I installed ARP head studs on my wife's Evo and have had ZERO issues. I plan on having them installed on my S2000 when I have the engine built. When properly installed, ARP head studs give you a lot of extra peace of mind.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 2QYK4U,Mar 26 2008, 08:44 PM
You didn't state that they failed, but you mentioned something about OEM head studs proving more reliable. That simply isn't the case.

10/10 people should be able to install them correctly. I installed ARP head studs on my wife's Evo and have had ZERO issues. I plan on having them installed on my S2000 when I have the engine built. When properly installed, ARP head studs give you a lot of extra peace of mind.
well overall, there are more failures in ARP studs verse 0 failures in the OEM bolts regardless of HOW they actually failed


10/10 people should be able to but somehow they still fail all to often which leads me to think they are not ALL improper installation.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Mar 26 2008, 06:52 PM
well overall, there are more failures in ARP studs verse 0 failures in the OEM bolts regardless of HOW they actually failed
The problem with that statement is the fact that there aren't many high-powered S2000s (high like 700rwhp or more) (I can count them on a couple fingers) out there and for those out there they haven't been in operation very long. I can all but guarantee you that the OEM head stud will fail (stretch) after being subjected to a high amounts of power over an extended period.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 2QYK4U,Mar 26 2008, 08:56 PM
The problem with that statement is the fact that there aren't many high-powered S2000s (high like 700rwhp or more) (I can count them on a couple fingers) out there and for those out there they haven't been in operation very long. I can all but guarantee you that the OEM head stud will fail (stretch) after being subjected to a high amounts of power over an extended period.
I will agree with that, definatly, but at only 21psi....highly doubtful. I've as high as 25psi with OEM bolts working perfectly fine.

Now if we're talking about 30+psi, I wouldn't recommend OEM bolts either
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Mar 26 2008, 07:00 PM
I will agree with that, definatly, but at only 21psi....highly doubtful. I've as high as 25psi with OEM bolts working perfectly fine.

Now if we're talking about 30+psi, I wouldn't recommend OEM bolts either
Great! We are on the same page regarding the OEM head bolts having a limitation when it comes to high-powered applications. Evo guys like to upgrade to ARP head bolts early in the mod process. Although my wife's Evo is only making 350awhp, we upgraded to ARP head bolts when installing the new cams. I wouldn't hesitate to upgrade my S2000 head bolts.
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