HeadGasket or Built?
New headbolts sretch and are supposed to be retorqued after one heat cycle. Which I feel is absolutely stupid to go through all of that labor and time to warm the car up for 5 minutes and then disassemble it all to retorque.
But that is what is supposed to be done.
I reused my original bolts which were already stretched to the max.
But that is what is supposed to be done.
I reused my original bolts which were already stretched to the max.
I have 450whp on my GT3076R and love it. I can easily hit over 500whp with a race gas tune on this setup; I just never run race gas b/c its a pita to order and expensive as hell. Do I want more? eh, I could if I wanted to, but I rarely use all 450whp and 330wtq around town, so I sure as hell don't need it. I'm content with 450whp. 600whp for a street s2k is just stupid imo.
Originally Posted by ChefJ,Nov 19 2007, 08:26 PM
New headbolts sretch and are supposed to be retorqued after one heat cycle. Which I feel is absolutely stupid to go through all of that labor and time to warm the car up for 5 minutes and then disassemble it all to retorque.
But that is what is supposed to be done.
I reused my original bolts which were already stretched to the max.
But that is what is supposed to be done.
I reused my original bolts which were already stretched to the max.
Headgasket if you're on a budget.
I've never had to retorque head bolts/studs after a heat cycle, not necessary if done right the first time. Never have had a problem. I mean dealerships don't do that on brand new cars...
I've never had to retorque head bolts/studs after a heat cycle, not necessary if done right the first time. Never have had a problem. I mean dealerships don't do that on brand new cars...
after seeing what can be done on a stock block no 3mm hg, 400whp, why worry building the block for 450whp? with a hg 3mm, you lower the compression to something in the low 9.X:1. as long as its assembled properly and tuned well you'll be fine. now, if you want 500whp+, then your in the game for the long haul, building the block is just one of the many expensive things you will be buying 

Originally Posted by camuman,Nov 20 2007, 07:03 AM
after seeing what can be done on a stock block no 3mm hg, 400whp, why worry building the block for 450whp? with a hg 3mm, you lower the compression to something in the low 9.X:1. as long as its assembled properly and tuned well you'll be fine. now, if you want 500whp+, then your in the game for the long haul, building the block is just one of the many expensive things you will be buying 

Originally Posted by PeanutButter,Nov 19 2007, 08:32 PM
I went with the IP 3mm headgasket.
2 weeks later it warped, so now I am doing it the right way.
2 weeks later it warped, so now I am doing it the right way.
Originally Posted by PeanutButter,Nov 19 2007, 09:13 PM
Probably not....
Brand new OEM headstuds were used, along with a factory manual, a 10 year Honda mechanic, a 10 year Honda enthusiast, and verbal help from Ya and another big name in the Honda world.
Brand new OEM headstuds were used, along with a factory manual, a 10 year Honda mechanic, a 10 year Honda enthusiast, and verbal help from Ya and another big name in the Honda world.
I had a professional torque the head for me but I went with ARP headstuds and haven't had one problem. I'd say it stretched the headbolts and the heat warped it. I would never recommend using headbolts unless you plan on staying under 15 psi. They are a stretch to seat type of retainer unlike a headstud.
Originally Posted by AirborneS2K,Nov 20 2007, 11:38 AM
b/c 400whp isn't enough, 450whp is better. oh noes, not 9:1 compression, god forbid you make more power on a lower compression with a TURBO of all things.
400whp = no headgasket with good tune
450-500whp = hg 3mm and good tune. <i like lowering the compression, if its needed>
500whp++ = build the biatch for longevity.
this is just my opinions.
i built my h22 with 9:1, i would have gone wiseco 8.5:1 if they were in stock. i love lower compression, leaves the window for fubar larger, though i still found that ****in window twice
they say if your breaking stuff your going fast....but still was pain in the ass. two huge thumbs down for fmu/msd boostretard/vafc tuning. i wish i had bought an aem from the start. when i boost this car, aem with built in wideband all the way.not too mention a full point of compression is like sacraficing 10whpish. big deal, turn the boost up to compensate.
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