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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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Assuming I get a proper tune when I do so, would lowering vtec be beneficial at all while running 9psi, injectors, FPR, AEM EMS?
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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In a very simple response....YES.
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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Any threads you're aware of that could give me some info on this? I searched, but had a hard time sifting through the results.
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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It's beneficial to lower your vtec engagement point to help alleviate the infamous pre-vtec dip. My tuner started at 5000rpm and went down in 100 rpm increments. When we hit 4400 we were no longer seeing positive results so it was set at 4500. This gives me a 4700 rpm powerband
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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It appears the more boost you have down low, the sooner you want the Vtec to engage. We started out with a couple hundred rpm lowering and over the last two years as the pulley size got smaller the Vtec responded lower and lower. Mine with a BAR of boost total is currently transitioning to Vtec at 4000 rpm. It does increase the midrange torque nicely.

Similar to JohnZ, this gives me a very large powerband.

Notice the Vtec torque dip is almost non existant. The dyno was at 13.8lbs boost total & Vtec engaged at 4000rpm.



This older dyno is my baseline with stock Vtec activation point superimposed over 7 lbs boost with the Vtec set at 4800rpm. Notice the large +/- 1000rpm torque dip.



Just remember boys and girls, you must have an aftermarket EMS to do this.
Dropping the Vtec with just a VAFC will cause all sorts of problems and you will loose power.
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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Care to share whats sorts of problems?

I had lowered mine to 4700 with a VAFC and never had a problem. the Vtec dip was gone.
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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[QUOTE=Venomous S,Apr 24 2006, 04:46 PM] Care to share whats sorts of problems?

I had lowered mine to 4700 with a VAFC and never had a problem.
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Sideways,Apr 24 2006, 08:02 PM
How did you add fuel? What happened to the AF ratio? Did you see power?

Do you have a dyno graph to share?
To be honest with you this was a few years back and I don't even remember how my tuner did it.(Hopefully he did the righ thing back then )

Well, my engine is still running but not w/ the same setup...

So I am not even sure about those questions. All I know is that the car pulled 311 on a very hot humid day at 7psi.
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