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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by donaldmejr
Originally Posted by 8940rpm' timestamp='1320890497' post='21143858
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is it miss firing during the pulls or during light throttle high rpms?
This is my problem 7500+rpm / light throttle, any ideas??

what is your A/F like in that area? I had the same issue so I bumped my old thread up for you to help out.
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somewhere around 10.5, please send me the link of your old thread, thank you thank you.
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Old Nov 11, 2011 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 8940rpm
Originally Posted by donaldmejr' timestamp='1320892823' post='21143935
[quote name='8940rpm' timestamp='1320890497' post='21143858']
[quote name='donaldmejr' timestamp='1320874391' post='21143092']
is it miss firing during the pulls or during light throttle high rpms?
This is my problem 7500+rpm / light throttle, any ideas??

what is your A/F like in that area? I had the same issue so I bumped my old thread up for you to help out.
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somewhere around 10.5, please send me the link of your old thread, thank you thank you.
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Yeah that's too rich at partial throttle, and with it being at high rpm your cylinders are loading up. I bet if you leaned it out in that area by a point at least, the problem will go away. Maybe your tuner was tuning for a higher throttle load then was actual on the street. And the transition between this open loop/closed loop fueling needs to be recalibrated. But just a guess.
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Old Nov 11, 2011 | 05:16 PM
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I can't believe KraftWerks didn't tune it properly, my kit is Kraftwerks high boost kits which comes with a Greddy EM and it is pre-tuned :-(
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Old Nov 12, 2011 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoolin
Originally Posted by Cody Strife' timestamp='1320957606' post='21146307
This may sound stupid, but I've experienced the same thing, but only when my fuel drops to 1/4 of a tank. I don't get that, I really don't...
That's happening because you are throwing all the fuel to the back of the tank when you take off if it's below a 1/4 tank and the pump is cavitating and pulling in air.
Agreed...! As a rule of thumb.....I try to not to full throttle hard pulls below 1/2 tank of gas. I believe that an excessively hard pull while on less than an 1/8th tank (racing a bike) was the kill shot for engine #1
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Old Nov 12, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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As I wait for my new plugs, would it be retarded to use the plugs I was tuned on Race Gas for? They are NGK, heat range 9 plugs...................
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoolin
Originally Posted by JoeyBalls' timestamp='1320886877' post='21143697
thx guys, im using NGK copper plugs(7173), heat range 8's.I'm going to put new ones in, and get them gapped appropriately
You should ditch the 7173's. I switched to those from the iridium 8's a while back and had major misfire issues; switched back to the iridium 8's and it was gone. I'll never run another copper plug again; especially the 7173's.
Copper plugs are perfectly fine. You likely had issues because the copper 8's are non resistor plugs. The copper 7 bkr7e plugs are resistor plugs and do not have these issues.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyBalls
Hello people. So the car runs really nice and strong at 12psi, however I have noticed lately, that at higher boost levels (car was tuned by Evans at 16.5 psi, tends to hit 17-18 in this nice cool weather, no big deal). Anway so on the highway I did some high boost pulls and the car misfired pretty badly. I do have 98 Octane in it, and the logs show no knock, or pullng of timing so what could it be? I have 110,000 miles on the original coil packs. Car has been boosted since 60k. I also run water Meth with may or may not contribute?

Also, interestingly enough, it sometimes does not do this during a high boost pull if I have been beating on it and the EGTS are in the 1,100-1,200 range. Basically its like if I do a few pulls back to back and heat up the turbo (egts etc) it is less likely to misfire)

I had to pull on a modded Audi RS4 today in low boost, took slightly longer than it should have
I wouldn't be suprised if you are just hitting boost cut. If that is not the case then likely it is from the water injection. I have seen slight misfire problems running water/meth injection before.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 06:19 AM
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UPDATE

I am waiting on new 7173's so in the mean time I put in the NGK V-Racing 7405 (part number R5672A-9) Theses are my plugs for the Race Gas tune, and the misfiring is gone and with the slightly higer octane and cooler temps, the car pulls noticeably harder than before. The plugs were probbaly going south for a while


PS I had to hook my exhuast back up, lately the fumes from the Open Downpipe are actually starting to hurt my throat I will just use the electrical cutout for now and run the open downpipe for the track or on Q16. I probably won't lose much HO if any, however the main reason for me running an open downpipe was the reduced EGT's (made a HUGE diff) For example after a pull with the exhuast hooked up it would hang out around 1200-1300, with the open downpipe WOT it barely breaks 1,100's and if it does it backs down to 800-900 within a minute!
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 07:21 AM
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do u run open downpipe on the street? bc i was thinking about doing this
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 02:47 PM
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^ Yea. Its f@#king loud, especially when you hit it and their is either a car or wall near you, lol. The fumes seem to be much worse in the winter, dunno why. The car def spools quicker with an open downpipe, also makes it sound like a cammed Neon, lol. I will run an open downpipe when I run Q16, but for the rest of the winter I am going to just use the electrical cutout.
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