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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 08:57 AM
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does the s200 come in t4 divided with vband for dump tube?
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by camuman
does the s200 come in t4 divided with vband for dump tube?
Quoted from Geoff at Full Race.

"the new s200sx FMW turbo will be available exclusively from Full-Race, this is a 4" inlet S200SX 7670 with the efr 76mm compressor wheel. We do not know when to expect them, I believe Jon can get you the pricing on it in the next couple of weeks. It is designed as a T4 twinscroll but will also be available as T3 single-scroll. It is a great option as well but not available as a v-band inlet"
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by baZurk
I have also been told that the EFR turbos are not very different in length compared to a similar sized precision or Garrett. The efr' swill require a special size vband for the down pipe though
yea i dunno why borg went with their own vband, just complicates everything and is a pain in the ass, had to weld the new flange on my downpipe
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by passmans2kny
wow sounds like those new snails will dominate
They should definitely be quite good!

Originally Posted by baZurk
Awesome! I was planning on using a 7163 EFR but I will consider the new s200sx as well. Might save me a few bucks.
The new S200SX will be slightly larger than the EFR but will be quite a bit lower in price. The 7163 uses the aluminum CHRA like the Indy series EFRs, and it adds to the price. Its super nice though.


Originally Posted by Alloy Craft
Are the turbine wheels Inconel or gama ti?
Inconel.

Originally Posted by liquidgsr
So is the s256 similar to the s262?
This will be a little smaller than the S262 on the compressor side but make similar power.


Originally Posted by Redline S2K
Will they offer any of these with a vband housings like the Tial housings?
No plans at this time, unfortunately. The EFR will be available in V band inlet though.


Originally Posted by baZurk
Originally Posted by Redline S2K' timestamp='1383143970' post='22853545
Will they offer any of these with a vband housings like the Tial housings?
+1 I sent an email to Full Race and I am waiting for a response. I know that the 7163 EFR will be offered with a vband inlet
Sadly, not for the time being. Maybe in the future if they get enough requests, because BW does pay attention to their customers.


Originally Posted by baZurk
I have also been told that the EFR turbos are not very different in length compared to a similar sized precision or Garrett. The efr' swill require a special size vband for the down pipe though
Not a huge difference depending on the units compared, but the EFR is generally a longer turbo from compressor inlet to turbine outlet, and packaging can be tricky.


Originally Posted by camuman
does the s200 come in t4 divided with vband for dump tube?
The S200SX uses a slightly different flange designed for the OEM market. The housings can be modified though.

Originally Posted by baZurk
Originally Posted by camuman' timestamp='1383152264' post='22853789
does the s200 come in t4 divided with vband for dump tube?
Quoted from Geoff at Full Race."the new s200sx FMW turbo will be available exclusively from Full-Race, this is a 4" inlet S200SX 7670 with the efr 76mm compressor wheel. We do not know when to expect them, I believe Jon can get you the pricing on it in the next couple of weeks. It is designed as a T4 twinscroll but will also be available as T3 single-scroll. It is a great option as well but not available as a v-band inlet"
FR wont be the only place to get them, I already have a handful ordered. I already have pricing as well and for anyone interested just PM me for a quote.


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Originally Posted by baZurk
I have also been told that the EFR turbos are not very different in length compared to a similar sized precision or Garrett. The efr' swill require a special size vband for the down pipe though
yea i dunno why borg went with their own vband, just complicates everything and is a pain in the ass, had to weld the new flange on my downpipe
I cant remember off hand if the EFR and Tial are compatible, but its fairly common for companies to design parts in their own way rather than bolting them up. The reason Precision and Turbonetics bolt up in place of Garrett is because both were distributors for Garrett and they cloned the housings. Even if the EFR and Tial housings use the same inlet and outlet the other dimensions are different and may not work well together. A pain, yes, but it can be worth the hassle when when switching to an EFR.
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 10:52 AM
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Solid information Thank you for the responses. You have a PM
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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Good info as as always Scorpion.
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by baZurk
Originally Posted by camuman' timestamp='1383152264' post='22853789
does the s200 come in t4 divided with vband for dump tube?
Quoted from Geoff at Full Race.

"the new s200sx FMW turbo will be available exclusively from Full-Race, this is a 4" inlet S200SX 7670 with the efr 76mm compressor wheel. We do not know when to expect them, I believe Jon can get you the pricing on it in the next couple of weeks. It is designed as a T4 twinscroll but will also be available as T3 single-scroll. It is a great option as well but not available as a v-band inlet"
Very interesting. I would love to see a dyno comparison of this turbo and the S300SX FMW. I could see myself switching to a S200SX FMW and putting my S300 on my Monte Carlo rather than the T04Z sitting in the basement...

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Originally Posted by baZurk
Solid information Thank you for the responses. You have a PM



Originally Posted by Redline S2K
Good info as as always Scorpion.
Glad it helps.


Originally Posted by timg
Very interesting. I would love to see a dyno comparison of this turbo and the S300SX FMW. I could see myself switching to a S200SX FMW and putting my S300 on my Monte Carlo rather than the T04Z sitting in the basement...Tim
The S257 FMW should spool fairly similar to the S256 but with more mid range. The S362 FMW is rated for ~740hp, or approx 90hp more than the S257 FMW. The T04Z is bordering on ancient. Solid turbo, but Ive compared it with the S363 non-FMW and the old school T series just cant keep up.
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 07:46 PM
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Hi, the 8374, does the internal gate work well on the T4 divided housing? Even at low boost say 10psi? The BOV work well? No gobble gobble? I have not seen one of these installed yet...
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Old Oct 31, 2013 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by passmans2kny
Originally Posted by baZurk
I have also been told that the EFR turbos are not very different in length compared to a similar sized precision or Garrett. The efr' swill require a special size vband for the down pipe though
yea i dunno why borg went with their own vband, just complicates everything and is a pain in the ass, had to weld the new flange on my downpipe
Forgot to mention, the BW housings were originally designed for diesel customers, so even as the turbos evolve the flange remains the same. The EFR is the different one though, and fortunately they use the same 3" style as Garrett, Tial, etc...


Originally Posted by AE85
Hi, the 8374, does the internal gate work well on the T4 divided housing? Even at low boost say 10psi? The BOV work well? No gobble gobble? I have not seen one of these installed yet...
It does, actually. The BOVs respond very quickly, and for an internal wastegate they work surprisingly well.
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