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LOL at Midas's children comment. Most of us on here are in our late 20's to early 40's and have degree's in engineering and the such. So, i dont think we are just a bunch of children that dont know what we are talking about. There are a lot of VERY intelligent mature people on this forum and thats what makes this forum so great. Its no where near what most forums are like out there with all the idoit kids that have nothing but drama and misinformation they spread.
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From: Sellersburg, IN
Originally Posted by teamvalorracing,Sep 14 2010, 04:54 PM
you're a joke. you try to persuade individuals into thinking you are this highly knowledgeable being, when in actuality, you are doing anything you can to now weasel your way out of an irreconcilable mistake you have made that, in turn, has lead members to see that you are a pampas ass and nothing more.
you were in here bashing folks and calling them ignorant for saying that the car did not put the power to the ground that you claimed it did. and it did not put that power to the ground. so, being inherently trapped in the middle of the shit storm you have created by being so unbelievably arrogant, you now are turning it into an argument about correction at elevation levels. its just a way to try and glance the damage done to your rep and knowledge as a tuner and put it onto the SAE correction standard for all vehicles on a dynomometer.
you want to blame this on incorrect sae calibrations? none of us were trying to divulge erroneous information, we simply knew without further investigation that the numbers you posted were in fact false, and not possible. it didnt take a genius to understand that. and since you couldnt wrap your feeble brain around that simple common sense veracity, what does that make you? a dolt? why of course!
take a deep breath and focus on these series of short, unequivocal, facts : you were wrong. own up. move on.
you were in here bashing folks and calling them ignorant for saying that the car did not put the power to the ground that you claimed it did. and it did not put that power to the ground. so, being inherently trapped in the middle of the shit storm you have created by being so unbelievably arrogant, you now are turning it into an argument about correction at elevation levels. its just a way to try and glance the damage done to your rep and knowledge as a tuner and put it onto the SAE correction standard for all vehicles on a dynomometer.
you want to blame this on incorrect sae calibrations? none of us were trying to divulge erroneous information, we simply knew without further investigation that the numbers you posted were in fact false, and not possible. it didnt take a genius to understand that. and since you couldnt wrap your feeble brain around that simple common sense veracity, what does that make you? a dolt? why of course!
take a deep breath and focus on these series of short, unequivocal, facts : you were wrong. own up. move on.
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Originally Posted by TheMidasTouch,Sep 14 2010, 02:28 PM
And if you think uncorrected values at sea level would be any less then 540 at sea level you obviously have no experience with tuning. There's still basis behind SAE correction...
Again, the debate isn't whether it made 580whp. It did, undeniably by the widely accepted standard of SAE. The debate is how wrong inaccurate SAE is when at altitude and turbocharged. Catch up home boy.
Again, the debate isn't whether it made 580whp. It did, undeniably by the widely accepted standard of SAE. The debate is how wrong inaccurate SAE is when at altitude and turbocharged. Catch up home boy.
jk.. 
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Wow, to thank my simple question would end up in four pages of arguments in a matter of 24 hrs lol.......And i have to agree, the GREATEST thing about s2ki is the partial knowledgable information that can be obtained from here w/out people calling u a retard.....(sometimes)
And yes compared to sites such as VEGASDRIFT, and others, respect is something we all hold on here (to a point), keep it friendly gentlemen, all im saying :-)
And yes compared to sites such as VEGASDRIFT, and others, respect is something we all hold on here (to a point), keep it friendly gentlemen, all im saying :-)
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Originally Posted by TheMidasTouch,Sep 14 2010, 05:59 PM
The fact remains, empirically, that the car made 580whp @13.8psi as defined by the Society of Automotive Engineers. Since this is the broadly accepted Standard for measuring power output(just as they've defined the standard for fuel consumption), I fail to see the problem representing it accordingly. Especially considering this will represent the most accurate value that is location independent vs the uncorrected value or even other correction factors like JIS, STD, etc... given that they all read even higher(I have dyno's of one of my cars that made 575 Uncorrected and 535 SAE @ 1000ft). Tell me something, would you represent a Quarter Mile trap speed in mP/H or kP/H?
Are you a religious man home boy?
Are you a religious man home boy?
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From: Lakeland, Florida
Originally Posted by Spoolin,Sep 14 2010, 10:35 PM
There are a lot of VERY intelligent mature people on this forum and thats what makes this forum so great. Its no where near what most forums are like out there with all the idoit kids that have nothing but drama and misinformation they spread.
i was a member of another site for pretty much 8 years, and it was 70% ghetto-ness, e-thugin, drama, and bs. and the other 30% actual insight and knowledge. i felt like i could count the only members worth a damn on 3 fingers. but when i joined here, i noticed that people want correct information to be spread. its how we build on our knowledge and move forth. there are more than a dozen guys that i respect as builders or tuners or designers on here. and when the discussion gets into the thick of things or when someone really gets stuck, the same names keep showing up in a steady fashion. its great.
so when this clown is in here degrading some of those same guys i consider intelligent guys that i even ask for advise with stuff on, it really burns me up. because in all honesty, this Midas DB isnt a guy you could sit and talk to in a sonic parking lot on Friday night. He would be the asshole with the tubbed-out mustang making fun of the s2k and laughing like a pampas dick at anything we say with clammy comments under his breath. he isnt the guy coming into all the threads and helping newcomers out. he's just an rude jack-ass that parades himself like some sort of saint that we should all be blessed by his presence and glorified that he would even type to us.
thats not how this site is. and i take offense to his BS because he's calling all my "friends" stupid, or ignorant, or slow. and thats not cool with me because not a single one of the guys in this entire thread are anywhere close to those terms.
no homo btw. lol.
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From: Braselton, GA
Originally Posted by TheMidasTouch,Sep 14 2010, 08:23 AM
Oh ok cool. So this bolton AP2 is really only making 110whp and the Comptech AP1 is only making 250...
You guys are pathetic. Let's hears some more.
You guys are pathetic. Let's hears some more.
are you reading the numbers wrong?