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Originally Posted by TheMidasTouch,Sep 14 2010, 04:07 PM
Again, the debate isn't whether it made 580whp. It did, undeniably by the widely accepted standard of SAE. The debate is how wrong inaccurate SAE is when at altitude and turbocharged. Catch up home boy.
you were in here bashing folks and calling them ignorant for saying that the car did not put the power to the ground that you claimed it did. and it did not put that power to the ground. so, being inherently trapped in the middle of the shit storm you have created by being so unbelievably arrogant, you now are turning it into an argument about correction at elevation levels. its just a way to try and glance the damage done to your rep and knowledge as a tuner and put it onto the SAE correction standard for all vehicles on a dynomometer.
you want to blame this on incorrect sae calibrations? none of us were trying to divulge erroneous information, we simply knew without further investigation that the numbers you posted were in fact false, and not possible. it didnt take a genius to understand that. and since you couldnt wrap your feeble brain around that simple common sense veracity, what does that make you? a dolt? why of course!
take a deep breath and focus on these series of short, unequivocal, facts : you were wrong. own up. move on.
580whp at only 13lbs of boost? on 91 pump?? no methanol??
i hate to say it too but i don't even believe it. even on my set-up i was running 18lbs of boost w/methol and i made 540whp. dyno dynamics but still.. 13lbs and your making 580?!?!
i hate to say it too but i don't even believe it. even on my set-up i was running 18lbs of boost w/methol and i made 540whp. dyno dynamics but still.. 13lbs and your making 580?!?!
Struck a nerve have I?
I made no attempt to boast about anything I've done. It's not even my car. The only reason I posted anything was to defend my bud from the onslaught of famous 'S2KI haters' (if you look at my post history, this is a trend). I only indicated I was the tuner to give credibility to the graph and prevent instant dismissal. I don't own this dyno, and do not charge anything for my services. I pick and choose who I want to tune based on the level of effort that has gone into the build and the need of the owner. Since I make very good money at my own profession as an Engineer, I much prefer it this way. Therefor, I have no need for any e-Respect bullsh!t from piddly narrow minded petulant children that feel insignificant in the face of others success.
As this is the case, what it seems I've really been pointing out is how uneducated and foolish you are, and not how experienced I am (or whatever nonsense you're spouting). Yet you, despite not having an elementary understanding of standardized correction, feel so strongly and confident in your stance you would waste this much time attacking it. You only realized the difference after someone who understood, was kind enough to throw you fools a bone that should have been an understood afterthought. And somehow I'm the joke?
The fact remains, empirically, that the car made 580whp @13.8psi as defined by the Society of Automotive Engineers. Since this is the broadly accepted Standard for measuring power output(just as they've defined the standard for fuel consumption), I fail to see the problem representing it accordingly. Especially considering this will represent the most accurate value that is location independent vs the uncorrected value or even other correction factors like JIS, STD, etc... given that they all read even higher(I have dyno's of one of my cars that made 575 Uncorrected and 535 SAE @ 1000ft). Tell me something, would you represent a Quarter Mile trap speed in mP/H or kP/H?
Are you a religious man home boy?
I made no attempt to boast about anything I've done. It's not even my car. The only reason I posted anything was to defend my bud from the onslaught of famous 'S2KI haters' (if you look at my post history, this is a trend). I only indicated I was the tuner to give credibility to the graph and prevent instant dismissal. I don't own this dyno, and do not charge anything for my services. I pick and choose who I want to tune based on the level of effort that has gone into the build and the need of the owner. Since I make very good money at my own profession as an Engineer, I much prefer it this way. Therefor, I have no need for any e-Respect bullsh!t from piddly narrow minded petulant children that feel insignificant in the face of others success.
As this is the case, what it seems I've really been pointing out is how uneducated and foolish you are, and not how experienced I am (or whatever nonsense you're spouting). Yet you, despite not having an elementary understanding of standardized correction, feel so strongly and confident in your stance you would waste this much time attacking it. You only realized the difference after someone who understood, was kind enough to throw you fools a bone that should have been an understood afterthought. And somehow I'm the joke?
The fact remains, empirically, that the car made 580whp @13.8psi as defined by the Society of Automotive Engineers. Since this is the broadly accepted Standard for measuring power output(just as they've defined the standard for fuel consumption), I fail to see the problem representing it accordingly. Especially considering this will represent the most accurate value that is location independent vs the uncorrected value or even other correction factors like JIS, STD, etc... given that they all read even higher(I have dyno's of one of my cars that made 575 Uncorrected and 535 SAE @ 1000ft). Tell me something, would you represent a Quarter Mile trap speed in mP/H or kP/H?
Are you a religious man home boy?
Originally Posted by TheMidasTouch,Sep 14 2010, 11:07 AM
You were saying?

Your failure doesn't implicate an impossibility... Narrow minded ignorant children.
This is the data log from run 7 on 11 Sep 10 while I was tuning this car.
I can provide comparable dyno runs to indicate the normalcy for how this dyno reads, if needs be.
The world is flat... please.

Your failure doesn't implicate an impossibility... Narrow minded ignorant children.
This is the data log from run 7 on 11 Sep 10 while I was tuning this car.
I can provide comparable dyno runs to indicate the normalcy for how this dyno reads, if needs be.
The world is flat... please.
There is absolutely no way to make 580 whp on only 13 psi and 91 octane or the timing is out the roof and the engine is about to pop.
I have one of the most efficient manifolds out there and when I was on 9.5 psi of boost with 93 octane and 11:1 CR, I made 400 whp on a dynojet with one of the best tuners in the country.



wow I hope I can make 600 on a gt30 at 16psi lol.




