NEW ROTREX RACE CONVERSION
Originally Posted by lotus7racer,Jun 17 2010, 03:00 PM
Rotrex supercharger is nice excellent charger
..... but I hate the big ugly front plate design.
..... but I hate the big ugly front plate design.
Hey TTS, do you guys have any guys on this forum running these kits on a road course?
not an S2 but we have Civic's. Check out Youtube[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85rKmUZI25I [/media] he's caned this car right across Europe. Many on Youtube
Originally Posted by CourageOO7,Jun 17 2010, 05:08 PM
Eh...the dyno plot makes up for the lack of aesthetics. I'd rock it.
Hey TTS, do you guys have any guys on this forum running these kits on a road course?
Hey TTS, do you guys have any guys on this forum running these kits on a road course?
Originally Posted by camuman,Jun 17 2010, 04:14 PM
dont jump off the novi 1500 blower just yet. wait for the july dyno day where mase is tuning one. i cant wait to see this power band.
oh my, this might just give SOS a run for their money...
ok, after reading the site I'm a bit confused, all the HP measurements seem to be BHP- are you running a correction factor to display HP/TQ at the crank? or is the BHP abbreviation there for no reason whatsoever?
furthermore if the blower is making 450 at the crank wouldn't that read 385ish or so at the wheels? why do you need meth at that point? also, now what is so special about your blower vs the kraftwerks unit or others? I get that it's a bigger charger and should be able to flow more, but is the actual power potential much higher? say 400-450 or more at the WHEELS
what I am getting at is KW blowers seem to top out around 370-380 at the wheels, which is not much less than what you are showing in the stage 3 kit after converting bhp to whp, right? does the actual kit have much higher potential(at least 425+ WHP?) and you are just showing the highest boost you have made maps for?
or would one still be better off with an SOS kit or N1500 upgrade if they are going for max power? or am I completely wrong here?
someone explain please?
ok, after reading the site I'm a bit confused, all the HP measurements seem to be BHP- are you running a correction factor to display HP/TQ at the crank? or is the BHP abbreviation there for no reason whatsoever?
furthermore if the blower is making 450 at the crank wouldn't that read 385ish or so at the wheels? why do you need meth at that point? also, now what is so special about your blower vs the kraftwerks unit or others? I get that it's a bigger charger and should be able to flow more, but is the actual power potential much higher? say 400-450 or more at the WHEELS
what I am getting at is KW blowers seem to top out around 370-380 at the wheels, which is not much less than what you are showing in the stage 3 kit after converting bhp to whp, right? does the actual kit have much higher potential(at least 425+ WHP?) and you are just showing the highest boost you have made maps for?
or would one still be better off with an SOS kit or N1500 upgrade if they are going for max power? or am I completely wrong here?
someone explain please?
Originally Posted by lotus7racer,Jun 17 2010, 04:00 PM
Rotrex supercharger is nice excellent charger
..... but I hate the big ugly front plate design.
..... but I hate the big ugly front plate design.
In the stage 2 section there are 3 CAD drawings of the new design which is soon be ready.
It still doesnt have the bling of Vortech/Paxton blowers yes since rotrex are alot smaller but it looks a lot better so far.
@herminator
I am sure 450 is at the wheels and its on a heart breaker dyno also
This TTS kit is able to push 17+psi so 450whp+ is no problem
The C38-81 flows a bit more CFM than the novi 1200 and slightly more efficient.
(I havent been able to find a flow chart for the novi 1200 so I am basing the efficiently part of my comment on one of the similar Vortech blowers)
The novi 1500 does better compare to both.
How ever rotrex is currently testing a C38-91
Would you happen to know when rotrex will release the new blower Richard?
Originally Posted by EternalLx,Jun 18 2010, 12:05 AM
@herminator
I am sure 450 is at the wheels and its on a heart breaker dyno also
I am sure 450 is at the wheels and its on a heart breaker dyno also
Brake horsepower (bhp) is the measure of an engine's horsepower without the loss in power caused by the gearbox, alternator, differential, water pump, and other auxiliary components such as power steering pump, muffled exhaust system, etc. Brake refers to a device which was used to load an engine and hold it at a desired RPM.
so it gets me wondering if there is some reason why they never pushed it farther than that- 450 at the crank is only 10 or so more hp than the current KW kit is capable of. I mean, am I nuts or am I reading this correctly? because BHP is most certainly not WHP and that's a pretty big difference.
Originally Posted by EternalLx,Jun 18 2010, 12:05 AM
This TTS kit is able to push 17+psi so 450whp+ is no problem
The C38-81 flows a bit more CFM than the novi 1200 and slightly more efficient.
(I havent been able to find a flow chart for the novi 1200 so I am basing the efficiently part of my comment on one of the similar Vortech blowers)
The novi 1500 does better compare to both.
How ever rotrex is currently testing a C38-91
The C38-81 flows a bit more CFM than the novi 1200 and slightly more efficient.
(I havent been able to find a flow chart for the novi 1200 so I am basing the efficiently part of my comment on one of the similar Vortech blowers)
The novi 1500 does better compare to both.
How ever rotrex is currently testing a C38-91
I guess is what I'm saying is I would like to see someone make 450+ at the wheels before I go choosing this kit over an SOS kit- I'm not doubting the charger is capable of more(if what you're saying is accurate- and I have no reason to doubt that), just wondering why it is presented as if 450bhp is the most you can push? if that were the case then why everyone is getting all excited over 370-380whp? other than that this looks to be an awesome kit and I'm sure it's just a misunderstanding- I would love to hear the manufacturer chime in on this though.
my other question still stands- why is water/meth necissary at those power levels? isn't there and FMIC? don't smaller blowers push just as much power without meth? what's the difference? or is it just a safety/liability standpoint?




