Oil filter backed out...
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Say huh? I've always just hand-tightened oil filters on all my Hondas. Have I been getting away with murder for this long? I thought the general consensus was to hand-tighten?
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So the filter mates to the block, is the gasket to large or to small? You can look for a filter with a gasket size that will fit the block so the whole gasket will be on the block. You don't want half the gasket doing all the work.
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Originally Posted by braeden' timestamp='1457487227' post='23902844
You'd have to have some pretty grippy hands to get enough torque on the oil filter to safely hand tighten it 
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The OEM PCX oil filter is not meant to be hand tightened. It has torque specs printed right on the filter.
Here is a quote from billman250 in a similar thread.
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/109...startup-knock/
Here is a quote from billman250 in a similar thread.
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/109...startup-knock/
Who ever tightened that filter is directly responsible, not you. Period. A properly tightened filter will not come off. Stand up for this, and print this post out for your fight.
Any S2000 factory filter that is hand tightened has a very good chance of coming loose. The factory Honda S2000 PCX filter has a shallow gasket, which allows for metal to metal torqueing like a bolt. If they tightened by hand, it's their fault.
Hand tightening has been the industry standard forever. That is until the S2000 filter arrived.
ONLY filters with a tall gasket (pretty much all other filters in the world) can be hand tightened as the gasket resistance keeps the filter on. The S2000 filter gasket cannot do this, it mush be put on with a WRENCH, JUST AS IT STATES in the Honda repair manual.
You spun a bearing, and its a big expense.
There is a small chance this can be fixed while you wait (replace the spun bearing and hand micro-polish the crank). Not sure where you are but I've saved quite a few.
Any S2000 factory filter that is hand tightened has a very good chance of coming loose. The factory Honda S2000 PCX filter has a shallow gasket, which allows for metal to metal torqueing like a bolt. If they tightened by hand, it's their fault.
Hand tightening has been the industry standard forever. That is until the S2000 filter arrived.
ONLY filters with a tall gasket (pretty much all other filters in the world) can be hand tightened as the gasket resistance keeps the filter on. The S2000 filter gasket cannot do this, it mush be put on with a WRENCH, JUST AS IT STATES in the Honda repair manual.
You spun a bearing, and its a big expense.
There is a small chance this can be fixed while you wait (replace the spun bearing and hand micro-polish the crank). Not sure where you are but I've saved quite a few.
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The OEM PCX oil filter is not meant to be hand tightened. It has torque specs printed right on the filter.
Here is a quote from billman250 in a similar thread.
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/109...startup-knock/
Here is a quote from billman250 in a similar thread.
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/109...startup-knock/
Originally Posted by Billman250' timestamp='1408107376' post='23288080
Who ever tightened that filter is directly responsible, not you. Period. A properly tightened filter will not come off. Stand up for this, and print this post out for your fight.
Any S2000 factory filter that is hand tightened has a very good chance of coming loose. The factory Honda S2000 PCX filter has a shallow gasket, which allows for metal to metal torqueing like a bolt. If they tightened by hand, it's their fault.
Hand tightening has been the industry standard forever. That is until the S2000 filter arrived.
ONLY filters with a tall gasket (pretty much all other filters in the world) can be hand tightened as the gasket resistance keeps the filter on. The S2000 filter gasket cannot do this, it mush be put on with a WRENCH, JUST AS IT STATES in the Honda repair manual.
You spun a bearing, and its a big expense.
There is a small chance this can be fixed while you wait (replace the spun bearing and hand micro-polish the crank). Not sure where you are but I've saved quite a few.
Any S2000 factory filter that is hand tightened has a very good chance of coming loose. The factory Honda S2000 PCX filter has a shallow gasket, which allows for metal to metal torqueing like a bolt. If they tightened by hand, it's their fault.
Hand tightening has been the industry standard forever. That is until the S2000 filter arrived.
ONLY filters with a tall gasket (pretty much all other filters in the world) can be hand tightened as the gasket resistance keeps the filter on. The S2000 filter gasket cannot do this, it mush be put on with a WRENCH, JUST AS IT STATES in the Honda repair manual.
You spun a bearing, and its a big expense.
There is a small chance this can be fixed while you wait (replace the spun bearing and hand micro-polish the crank). Not sure where you are but I've saved quite a few.
interestingly good stuff thanks
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From: MAHT-O-MEDI
Originally Posted by CoolGuy094' timestamp='1457632948' post='23904619
[quote name='braeden' timestamp='1457487227' post='23902844']
You'd have to have some pretty grippy hands to get enough torque on the oil filter to safely hand tighten it
You'd have to have some pretty grippy hands to get enough torque on the oil filter to safely hand tighten it
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Finger tight, then 3/4 of a turn. Never had any problems, most of all struggling with a wrench to get the thing off.
As far as what Billman posted about filters, I don't use stock Hondas, just the top line FRAMs or whatever from the auto parts store.
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From: Sweden
The instructions are printed right on the side of the OEM filter, it's 16lb-ft or 7/8 turn after the rubber seal seats.
There is no way you can get it tight enough just using your hand, unless maybe your name is Hafthór Björnsson
There is no way you can get it tight enough just using your hand, unless maybe your name is Hafthór Björnsson
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From: Gurnee, IL
Right, like with the s2000s specially made filter, Honda has specifically listed a torque that can only be reached with a wrench.
I'd be nice if there was a cheap and easy solution to keep it put...especially since my remote mounted oil cooler is a little less accessible.
I'd be nice if there was a cheap and easy solution to keep it put...especially since my remote mounted oil cooler is a little less accessible.