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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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I say try them out and see. Whats the worse that could happen they do nothing and you ssell them to a n/a guy
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 06:02 PM
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exactly. and without trying new things people would still be under the mindset 350whp is the max you can make on a b series on pump gas.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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Why would you need to try new things when the stock "things" work perfectly fine?

I fail to see why he should buy them for the insane price when what comes stock works fine.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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Since we're talking about replacing things that work fine, I vote that the OP just take out the F20c engine and just swap in a MS4 cam LS1 while he's at it.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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Trying new things is why we have all the high power stock block s2ks and 8sec s2000s. Someone has to make the move and he has expressed the intrest in trying it . If he could get the same power at less boost then even that would make it worth it.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by D1sclaimer,Jul 26 2010, 08:45 PM
Since we're talking about replacing things that work fine, I vote that the OP just take out the F20c engine and just swap in a MS4 cam LS1 while he's at it.
ya cause thats where this convo was ment to go kids
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by D1sclaimer,Jul 26 2010, 06:36 PM
Why would you need to try new things when the stock "things" work perfectly fine?

I fail to see why he should buy them for the insane price when what comes stock works fine.
if you could make 50whp more on the same boost level would you??

thats a pretty standard thing going from ctr cams to pro1 on a b series motor. its worth a shot...and like said before, they can be sold to someone whos NA if it doesnt work.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CaseyGW,Jul 26 2010, 07:06 PM
if you could make 50whp more on the same boost level would you??
I just don't see it happening. This isn't a v8.
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 02:31 AM
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I think it's worth a shot. The Toda cams are the ones that I've been looking at. The turbo guys who have tried BC and Skunk have had no significant gains. NA cams do provide you with overlap, which has been shown to increase power in B-series cars. Some cam companies have ditched their turbo cams and solely sell NA cams since they gain more power or equal power than their "turbo cam" counterparts. It's not unusual to see B-series or K-series NA cams to have significant gains from NA cams.

Less boost w/ more power is always a good thing
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by A51_AP1,Jul 27 2010, 02:31 AM
I think it's worth a shot. The Toda cams are the ones that I've been looking at. The turbo guys who have tried BC and Skunk have had no significant gains. NA cams do provide you with overlap, which has been shown to increase power in B-series cars. Some cam companies have ditched their turbo cams and solely sell NA cams since they gain more power or equal power than their "turbo cam" counterparts. It's not unusual to see B-series or K-series NA cams to have significant gains from NA cams.

Less boost w/ more power is always a good thing
To get the best gain on a set of cams, most if not all b series guys use adjustable cam gears.

Don't think you are going to slap some cams in and make 50whp+.

What sorta price are we talking w/cams + cam gears?
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