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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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The SCs are carb legal, so I assume you could leave that operational.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BrendanC,Sep 11 2006, 04:14 PM
The SCs are carb legal, so I assume you could leave that operational.




really , 14psi or more on the stock ecu , stock injectors


You try it and let us know how it goes Please dont give advice on assumptions





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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Twiztid,Sep 11 2006, 02:32 PM




really , 14psi or more on the stock ecu , stock injectors


You try it and let us know how it goes Please dont give advice on assumptions
Excuse me?

Did I mention anything about the boost level? Nope.

Did I mention anything else other then the Vortech and Comptech kits are Carb Legal?
Nope.

Why don't you go asuage your ego somewhere else. The Kits are advertised and sold as Carb Legal, which means you can install them as advertised, and pass smog.

Change the pulley back to one even lower (pretty simple change) then 7psi, and (as stated) put the old injectors and comptuter in, and you can pass smog.

I do believe that Sideways once emntioned returning his car to "364" to something similar because he had to pass smog. That would indicate that he did not remove the belt, but lowered the boost via pulley change and passed that way.

Please do not ASSUME who you are speaking to, and read posts more carefully. Your OWN ASSumptios are what caused you to post about something that was not suggsted. Post count and "time on the board" do not equate to knowledge, experience, or respect.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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Wow...this thread should be called the FI drama thread

its neverending in here...
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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IBTL?
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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This thread is fubar.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BrendanC,Sep 11 2006, 06:23 PM
Excuse me?

Did I mention anything about the boost level? Nope.

Did I mention anything else other then the Vortech and Comptech kits are Carb Legal?
Nope.

Why don't you go asuage your ego somewhere else. The Kits are advertised and sold as Carb Legal, which means you can install them as advertised, and pass smog.

Change the pulley back to one even lower (pretty simple change) then 7psi, and (as stated) put the old injectors and comptuter in, and you can pass smog.

I do believe that Sideways once emntioned returning his car to "364" to something similar because he had to pass smog. That would indicate that he did not remove the belt, but lowered the boost via pulley change and passed that way.

Please do not ASSUME who you are speaking to, and read posts more carefully. Your OWN ASSumptios are what caused you to post about something that was not suggsted. Post count and "time on the board" do not equate to knowledge, experience, or respect.
So to pass inspection now you want him to swap ecus , replace the stock injectors , reinstall the stock pulley and reinstall the Vortech black box and fmu to provide fuel again ?????

Then swap it all back again after ????

Then he should just keep the kit stock .

Its not about respect its about confusing the discussion .


You cant just swap back the factory injectors , ecu and put back the stock pulley because now it has no fuel to run because you would not be using the FMU or the SplitSecond box that comes with the Vortech kit to achieve 450whp. He is better off just leaving the belt off so he can drive it to the inspection station . The car needs to have a few drive cycles on it for the ready code to clear to pass the OBD2 scan.

Its not about only passing the smog part you also have to pass the OBD2 scan .From what I have heard and not talking to Sideways . One stated as you have, that he swapped the pulleys and lowered boost with the cat reinstalled . That might pass the sniffer test . One also stated he just swapped back in the factory ecu when he arrived at the station . This still would not be enough to pass the OBD2 portion as the factory ECU would not show as ready and by law would not be inspectable ( The car has to be driven through a few hot and cold cycles for this to happen) Passing that car would be illegal and includes a hefty fine for both parties . I am not saying that some stations dont do this but most wont as the fine is worse for the inspection station than the car owner. He is just lucky he knows someone . I dont want everyone to assume that they can do the same .

See what i am getting at .

Kane posted
He removes the injectors, AEM EMS, replace the exhaust, & remove the S/C belt.

For the injectors, the double sided adapters are the best bet. Easy switch over.
Then you posted
The SCs are carb legal, so I assume you could leave that operational.
So one would assume that by reading your post after Kane's ,one could just swap back the injectors and swap out the computers and just run lower boost .Without installing the split second box or FMU. Who is to blame when the poor Guy blows his car up just for inspection?????

If your post was more informative instead of misleading then we wouldn't be here right now . Your rebuttal states " The Kits are advertised and sold as Carb Legal" I dont see anywhere in this thread that he wants the kit to work as advertised?? so to your comment about reading your post correctly , I believe I did in relevance to this thread and not a ASSumption. My suggestion is to read the thread next time and not just skim through the posts.

Some members in this thread have spent some serious time posting and on the phone to try and get him going in the right direction .

Even though your statement was 100% true if used buy itself . But in this tread following the one statement would make it false. So I am glad you want to help but make sure what you are saying progresses the thread and not regresses it .

PPD is a joke I dont post for the hell of it for PPD count . I post from experience as I do this as my daily job and not from a employee stand point but from 15 years in the industry and a shop owner .But what would you know of me as you have only been registered for 40+days .

Its sad that the members with the most knowledge dont post as much anymore or have ceased to post all together because of the misleading posts that make there effort to help ,useless. I remember when there was more knowledge that BS on this board . Know there is just more BS and all the knowledge got locked up in the search feature that dont work worth a $%^&.

Sorry trivium to do this in your post , but most would agree that the abundance of misleading info is do to its delivery or irrelevance to the thread. I see lots of threads that are progressing forward to have one post send it back to last week .I came here to help you in your goal and will stay if needed , but to have someone (not just BrendonC as I am sure it was not his intention ) mislead you in your goal I will intervene . PM's are great and help others sort through the BS and get the answers they are looking for . I know you have been dealing with Kane on the side and he is a good guy to take advise from . He will put you on the right track . Stick with those with first hand experience and not the hear sayers or paid for power ballers and you will succeed

For all those that are amused , I please to entertain
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by geists2k,Sep 11 2006, 09:15 PM
This thread is fubar.



Cant say I didnt try

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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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I have one final question and I hope someone can answer it.

If I use all the components listed before but use the Greddy Emanage (to make it somewhat easier to pass emissions), what would I have to swap out before the smog test and how much hp would I be able to make? I understand that I will be making less than with an EMS but I think this is the better route to maximize my chances of passing smog.
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