Power Gains From Bigger/More Efficient FMIC Core?
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Originally Posted by AirborneS2K,Oct 4 2007, 10:04 AM
As far as the sensors...not worth it when I'm about to sell the car.
As for the horsepower increase...I don't see why not, its a dyno dynamics dyno, not a dynapack or dynojet, and I'm sure with enough fans you will be able to replicate wind speeds.
I guess at least I'll shoot for a reliable, yet more agressive tune.
As for the horsepower increase...I don't see why not, its a dyno dynamics dyno, not a dynapack or dynojet, and I'm sure with enough fans you will be able to replicate wind speeds.
I guess at least I'll shoot for a reliable, yet more agressive tune.
good luck!
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Intercoolers are all about efficiency. On the evo, its not too hard to gain some power using a larger, yet more efficient intercooler. The intercooler doesn't really increase power, its just an air exchanger after all. It makes hot air cool, so the more efficient it is at this the more aggressively you can tune. Also good ic on the evo for example have been shown to cause less boost drop than the factory, which doesn't hurt.
Some people mistake a better IC for providing more power though, what its really doing is loosing less psi (some ic loose up to 5psi, some only loose 1 or 2psi etc), or allowing more boost to make it to the combustion chamber. Which could actually be bad depending on how your tune is setup.
Lets see if I can do an example. A Buschur fmic for the Evo is extremely efficient at cooling the air charge while dropping boost much, the stock Evo fmic isn't so good. What generally happens is someone gets tuned to 22 psi, then later down the road buys the Buschur Fmic. They are then boosting to 24 psi but don't know, or don't care. Its usually not until much later they find out they are running lean... Usually after a melted spark plug or some other glitch. Luckily for us though the Evo's ecu is pretty good at stopping knocks in its track, so more often than not the ecu has pulled a ton of timing and even though the guy now at 24psi instead of 22, he's actually making less hp because the ecu is trying to protect the engine from something it wasn't tuned for.
Basically a better fmic is a great, but make sure your car is tuned properly and is running the correct psi or it can bite you.
Some people mistake a better IC for providing more power though, what its really doing is loosing less psi (some ic loose up to 5psi, some only loose 1 or 2psi etc), or allowing more boost to make it to the combustion chamber. Which could actually be bad depending on how your tune is setup.
Lets see if I can do an example. A Buschur fmic for the Evo is extremely efficient at cooling the air charge while dropping boost much, the stock Evo fmic isn't so good. What generally happens is someone gets tuned to 22 psi, then later down the road buys the Buschur Fmic. They are then boosting to 24 psi but don't know, or don't care. Its usually not until much later they find out they are running lean... Usually after a melted spark plug or some other glitch. Luckily for us though the Evo's ecu is pretty good at stopping knocks in its track, so more often than not the ecu has pulled a ton of timing and even though the guy now at 24psi instead of 22, he's actually making less hp because the ecu is trying to protect the engine from something it wasn't tuned for.
Basically a better fmic is a great, but make sure your car is tuned properly and is running the correct psi or it can bite you.
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Originally Posted by stitos2k,Oct 10 2007, 01:06 PM
Intercoolers are all about efficiency. On the evo, its not too hard to gain some power using a larger, yet more efficient intercooler. The intercooler doesn't really increase power, its just an air exchanger after all. It makes hot air cool, so the more efficient it is at this the more aggressively you can tune. Also good ic on the evo for example have been shown to cause less boost drop than the factory, which doesn't hurt.
Some people mistake a better IC for providing more power though, what its really doing is loosing less psi (some ic loose up to 5psi, some only loose 1 or 2psi etc), or allowing more boost to make it to the combustion chamber. Which could actually be bad depending on how your tune is setup.
Lets see if I can do an example. A Buschur fmic for the Evo is extremely efficient at cooling the air charge while dropping boost much, the stock Evo fmic isn't so good. What generally happens is someone gets tuned to 22 psi, then later down the road buys the Buschur Fmic. They are then boosting to 24 psi but don't know, or don't care. Its usually not until much later they find out they are running lean... Usually after a melted spark plug or some other glitch. Luckily for us though the Evo's ecu is pretty good at stopping knocks in its track, so more often than not the ecu has pulled a ton of timing and even though the guy now at 24psi instead of 22, he's actually making less hp because the ecu is trying to protect the engine from something it wasn't tuned for.
Basically a better fmic is a great, but make sure your car is tuned properly and is running the correct psi or it can bite you.
Some people mistake a better IC for providing more power though, what its really doing is loosing less psi (some ic loose up to 5psi, some only loose 1 or 2psi etc), or allowing more boost to make it to the combustion chamber. Which could actually be bad depending on how your tune is setup.
Lets see if I can do an example. A Buschur fmic for the Evo is extremely efficient at cooling the air charge while dropping boost much, the stock Evo fmic isn't so good. What generally happens is someone gets tuned to 22 psi, then later down the road buys the Buschur Fmic. They are then boosting to 24 psi but don't know, or don't care. Its usually not until much later they find out they are running lean... Usually after a melted spark plug or some other glitch. Luckily for us though the Evo's ecu is pretty good at stopping knocks in its track, so more often than not the ecu has pulled a ton of timing and even though the guy now at 24psi instead of 22, he's actually making less hp because the ecu is trying to protect the engine from something it wasn't tuned for.
Basically a better fmic is a great, but make sure your car is tuned properly and is running the correct psi or it can bite you.
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Originally Posted by stitos2k,Oct 10 2007, 10:06 AM
Intercoolers are all about efficiency. On the evo, its not too hard to gain some power using a larger, yet more efficient intercooler. The intercooler doesn't really increase power, its just an air exchanger after all. It makes hot air cool, so the more efficient it is at this the more aggressively you can tune. Also good ic on the evo for example have been shown to cause less boost drop than the factory, which doesn't hurt.
Some people mistake a better IC for providing more power though, what its really doing is loosing less psi (some ic loose up to 5psi, some only loose 1 or 2psi etc), or allowing more boost to make it to the combustion chamber. Which could actually be bad depending on how your tune is setup.
Lets see if I can do an example. A Buschur fmic for the Evo is extremely efficient at cooling the air charge while dropping boost much, the stock Evo fmic isn't so good. What generally happens is someone gets tuned to 22 psi, then later down the road buys the Buschur Fmic. They are then boosting to 24 psi but don't know, or don't care. Its usually not until much later they find out they are running lean... Usually after a melted spark plug or some other glitch. Luckily for us though the Evo's ecu is pretty good at stopping knocks in its track, so more often than not the ecu has pulled a ton of timing and even though the guy now at 24psi instead of 22, he's actually making less hp because the ecu is trying to protect the engine from something it wasn't tuned for.
Basically a better fmic is a great, but make sure your car is tuned properly and is running the correct psi or it can bite you.
Some people mistake a better IC for providing more power though, what its really doing is loosing less psi (some ic loose up to 5psi, some only loose 1 or 2psi etc), or allowing more boost to make it to the combustion chamber. Which could actually be bad depending on how your tune is setup.
Lets see if I can do an example. A Buschur fmic for the Evo is extremely efficient at cooling the air charge while dropping boost much, the stock Evo fmic isn't so good. What generally happens is someone gets tuned to 22 psi, then later down the road buys the Buschur Fmic. They are then boosting to 24 psi but don't know, or don't care. Its usually not until much later they find out they are running lean... Usually after a melted spark plug or some other glitch. Luckily for us though the Evo's ecu is pretty good at stopping knocks in its track, so more often than not the ecu has pulled a ton of timing and even though the guy now at 24psi instead of 22, he's actually making less hp because the ecu is trying to protect the engine from something it wasn't tuned for.
Basically a better fmic is a great, but make sure your car is tuned properly and is running the correct psi or it can bite you.
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