S2000 Forced Induction S2000 Turbocharging and S2000 supercharging, for that extra kick.

Question about TQ

Thread Tools
 
Old 07-29-2005, 07:28 AM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
JayStyles662's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 542
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Question about TQ

As you guys probably know the EVO 8 and Dodge Neon SRT4 are 2.0L Turbo engines....With nice HP and TQ number because of the FI. My question is why when we turbocharger our cars we can never seem to get too much TQ from them? I mean if we have a turbo that spools up at 3000RPMS we are under boost for 6000RPMs. I was justy wondering why its so hard to get TQ out of our engine can anyone of you FI guys clue me in on why this is?
Old 07-29-2005, 12:52 PM
  #2  

 
Spoolin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Sellersburg, IN
Posts: 6,459
Received 34 Likes on 31 Posts
Default

I think it has to do with our engine having such a short stroke and high rpm. But I could be totally wrong.
Old 07-29-2005, 10:45 PM
  #3  
Registered User
 
kane.s2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: The Beach, CA
Posts: 5,372
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

because it's a simple physics formula and you can't have a closer tq to hp with the 8000, 9000 redline because of it
Old 07-30-2005, 07:10 AM
  #4  

 
honda9krpm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 4,857
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I don't know what you means by not getting nice torque.

Last time I looked at my half tuned car dyno graph, the torque was 650Nm at 16psi. That's plenty for me

It all depends on the turbo.
Old 08-01-2005, 10:03 AM
  #5  
Registered User

 
brogers's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Grand Prairrie
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Just like Spoolin said. It has to do with the bore and stroke. Two 4-cylinder engines can have the same displacement, but different bore/stroke. HP is what really matters anyway, not TQ.
Old 08-01-2005, 11:14 AM
  #6  
Registered User

 
Elistan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Longmont, CO
Posts: 15,323
Received 28 Likes on 22 Posts
Default

I was justy wondering why its so hard to get TQ out of our engine
I think you're mistaken there.

Well, first of all, the SRT4 has a 2.4 liter engine, not 2.0. It's torque rating is 245 lb-ft - aren't most bolt-on S2000 turbo kits somewhere in the low 200's for wheel torque? So more power and torque from a turbocharged S2000 engine.

The EVO VIII engine is 1997cc, identical to the F20C. But the compression ratio is only 8.8:1, so a LOT more boost can be run than in a stock S2000. Hence the 286 lb-ft of torque.
Old 08-01-2005, 11:28 AM
  #7  
Registered User
 
fperra's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Washington State
Posts: 3,178
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default


I'm 2.0 liters and 321 ft-lbs of torque.
Old 08-01-2005, 12:45 PM
  #8  
Registered User
 
Planets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Bend, OR
Posts: 853
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I thought he was talking about torque relative to hp. Like with the EVO, torque is about the same as hp, whereas the s2k even when highly boosted has much less torque than it does hp.
Old 08-01-2005, 02:22 PM
  #9  
Moderator

 
AusS2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Sydney
Posts: 30,810
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

No, it has a lot more horsepower than it does torque, and that's because it revs.
Old 08-01-2005, 02:27 PM
  #10  
Registered User
 
johninator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Fullerton
Posts: 497
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Rule of thumb is that the shorter the stroke, less torque but can rev higher.
If the engine can rev higher, then you can make up the torque by having higher multipliers in gearing.

See the gearing page on my signiture to compare the multiplied torque seen by the rear drivetrain or wheels.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
moches
S2000 Forced Induction
22
12-07-2012 04:30 PM
P2K
S2000 Talk
29
09-25-2006 08:52 PM
doctorcod
S2000 Forced Induction
32
03-08-2006 01:27 PM
jas825
S2000 Talk
4
12-03-2004 09:05 PM
Team Hybrid
S2000 Under The Hood
3
12-11-2001 02:40 PM



Quick Reply: Question about TQ



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:08 AM.