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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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Hi guys,

First off, I am glad to be back on this site after a 2 month absence. Now the question.

After reading countless threads on how the 2mm Cometic HGs are not the most sucessful solution for lowering compression, and the IP 3mm gasket having a 50/50 chance of sucess, I am sketchy on trying to turbo my s2k a 2nd time. I previously ran the IP 3mm but it failed after 8000 miles of use. I went back to stock while I researched for options. I've read about how a copper gasket is the best choice for sealing extreme builds, but they require O-rings and receiver grooves in the block and head.

Now, well known gasket maker SCE offers a copper gasket that has integrated O-rings in the body, and it is one solid piece (no layers thru which combustion can leak). It also has sealant around the coolant passages to prevent external leaks. It requires no copper spray and it doesn't require as smooth of a finish as a MLS, making the stock Ra suitable. They offer a 0.093 inch gasket (2.36mm) option, which should put me at about 9.5 CR.

My setup will involve this gasket along with ARP studs specific for the f2*. I plan on torquing to 80lbs-ft in steps of 20. Then I'd end with 2 heat cycles and a retorque.

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http://www.scegasketsonline.com/products/ics.html

Part No. is S92319 and they sell it for $246.79

Anyone had experience with the 0.093in headgasket in our cars?

Discuss away, thanks!
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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The IP Hg has a much much higher rate then "50/50".
I am interested to see some info, as far as real life situation on these newer copper gaskets.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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The inlinepro, is def. more than a 50/50, most inlinepro headgaskets are success. Could have been bad installation?
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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Ok, maybe the 50/50 statement was wrong, I'll take that back . The entire turbo install, down to the HG and clutch were done by InlinePro. I never worked on the car, just drove it. They did a superb job with my car, just that it didn't work out for me...
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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I have used solid copper gaskets in the past and oringed my head and had a reciever in the block but the Titan is more like a regular gasket. I will have to call them and see what they say.

I have a new IP kit on the way and I am looking for a gasket now. I was thinking of going with the 2mm Cometic though this looks very nice. Now that I know they make a copper I think I might have my head oringed.

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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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We have used these gaskets on a few different cars, never on the s2000 tho. Are you looking at the titan series? If you do need one shoot me a pm, we can get you one for way less then that.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 12:31 AM
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Well, I am looking at the ICS Titan, not at the regular self sealing Titan. The ICS is the gasket that already has an o-ring incorporated in the gasket, so no need to o-ring the block. The fact that regular copper gaskets require the o-rings to seal properly is what keeps ppl from using them. The ICS titan seeks to solve this problem.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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I called and talked with SCE today. They are suposed to contact me tomorrow and verify the part number.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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Just to throw this out there. I did copper spray my IP HG before I installed it and I haven't had any issues at all.
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 05:25 AM
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CheftJ, How many miles on your current setup? How much boost? did you use copper spray on all layers including the side that contacts the metal spacer or just the outermost top and bottom?
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