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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NAREKS2k,Oct 10 2008, 06:16 PM
I already have an aftermarket clutch, I also do my own work on my car whenever I can so thats not a problem. But double my budgets just crazy talk. So you guys are basically saying its going to cost me 9-10 grand..
Yup.

Think you can do it for cheaper? So did I.... and I was wrong. Give it a shot. If you can find a way to do it for cheaper, more power to you. You could probably do the initial install for your original budget, but after a bunch of crap breaks you'll end up spending the extra money anyway.... so you should just do it right the first time.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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I can probably do installation myself, me and a friend installed a turbo kit on his integra and the process isnt really much different, but I would rather leave it in the hands of a professional so everything gets done right the first time around like s2krazy said. I have someone who can install and tune dyno my car for 600 but I can talk him down to 500, and I know he will do a clean job on it. How does that sound? is that a reasonable price. And for my earlier question, is the precision turbo any good? does it spool quickly, quality , etc....

thanks for all the responses so far keep them coming guys im really interested and need more info
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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parts list!

4000 turbo kit
2000 engine management
1000 clutch/flywheel
600 exhaust
400 electronics (gauges/etc)
400 fuel injectors with harnesses.
500 tune
300 oil relocation
350 3mm head gasket
100 map sensor
100 boost solenoid for management
50 spark plugs
150 tapped oil pan
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9950 - and you know you'll still need other crap too.

i realize this stuff is a little skewed towards the higher side, but not too much. engine management is high, but hey i went with kpro so what can i say? lol
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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[QUOTE=TelosHedge,Oct 10 2008, 08:29 PM] parts list!

4000 turbo kit
2000 engine management
1000 clutch/flywheel
600
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NAREKS2k,Oct 10 2008, 08:42 PM
Well I already have a T1R 70R Sparrow exhaust, SPEC clutch and dont think itll cost me 2000 for engine management, no Kpro for 07
lol yeah itll be more exspensive for 07. first theres only 4 options (reasonable) options for 06+ s2000s.

1. AEM FIC- Heard to many bad storries about it.
2. Greddy EMU- Good, have heard both good and bad stories. Mainly because of the tuner. If you have a tuner like Giles near you i wouldnt mind using it.
3. KPRO- it will end up coming out for the 06+ s2000s but it will be more exspensive than $2k.
4. FCON V PRO- No harness out yet for the 06+, even if you get one theres only about 12 tuners in the country for it, plain and simple just way to many problems for this route.

5(unreasonable option)- AEM EMS. You lose VSA and CELs though. Cost about 1300-15000 for the EMS plus the harness is exspensiveeeeeeeeee. custom harness from autowave.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by s.hasan546,Oct 10 2008, 10:20 PM
lol yeah itll be more exspensive for 07. first theres only 4 options (reasonable) options for 06+ s2000s.

1. AEM FIC- Heard to many bad storries about it.
2. Greddy EMU- Good, have heard both good and bad stories. Mainly because of the tuner. If you have a tuner like Giles near you i wouldnt mind using it.
3. KPRO- it will end up coming out for the 06+ s2000s but it will be more exspensive than $2k.
4. FCON V PRO- No harness out yet for the 06+, even if you get one theres only about 12 tuners in the country for it, plain and simple just way to many problems for this route.

5(unreasonable option)- AEM EMS. You lose VSA and CELs though. Cost about 1300-15000 for the EMS plus the harness is exspensiveeeeeeeeee. custom harness from autowave.
Wow thanks a lot hasan. Didnt know you lose VSA with EMS . I already dont like the EMS much and that just made it worse. I guess my options right now is Greddy Emanage. No one here can answer my other questions? cmon guys I know theres a bunch of you that know the answers
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 01:23 AM
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$500 for install and tune is a great deal. My $10k didn't even include that. I'm doing the install in my garage and having a it tuned will probably run me about $500. I can't comment on precisions turbos because I'm not very familiar with them. I would personally go with something that has great support like the Garret GT series. Garret offers a wide range of options to choose from so you can pretty much choose the characteristics for your application (spool, how much power it can potentially make, etc).

Why exactly don't you like the AEM EMS? It is a great engine management system. It is FAR superior to the emanage ult. If you look hard enough, you will find bad characteristics and horror stories about both units. But that shouldn't shy you away from the EMS. No matter which direction you take for engine management, you will need to work very hard at getting it to run properly and consistently. Don't think that the emanage is going to make your life any easier. It has lots of flaws that IMHO make it worthless compared to a standalone unit like the EMS.

As for the AEM EMS on 06+... after you go turbo a check engine light is pointless anyway. There are so many new variables going on under the hood that you need to be paying attention to on a regular basis so that something doesn't go terribly wrong. If you need a check engine light to tell you something is wrong, you definitely don't need to be adding more parts under the hood.

Moreover, if you can't drive an S2000 without VSA (especially the AP2... a watered down, more street-friendly version or the car), you need not be adding more power to your car in the first place. You drive an AP2 which is more street friendly than the AP1 on so many levels (ex. the suspension is MUCH more forgiving)... and the AP1 doesn't have any VSA! Don't get me wrong, VSA is a very nice thing to have. And I agree that it *MIGHT* save your ass in a rain storm, but if you can't drive an S2000 without the assist of VSA (in ANY situation), you definitely don't need a more powerful version of a car that you can't handle in the first place.

If either of these two situations apply to your knowledge/handling ability of the S2000, I STRONGLY suggest learning your car better before modifying it in any way that will alter its performance in such an extreme way. I'm not trying to offend you in any way, and I'm sorry if it sounds that way. I think you need to do a lot more research in this before you go modifying your car in such an extreme way. From what you have told us, there seem to be a lot of variables that you have not considered. That is all part of the process of learning. There are lots of great threads out there that deal with all of the same issues that you have asked us about. Go read up on those and consider the opinions of people who have already done this.

Another option you might want to consider is the Kraftwerks supercharger system. It makes GREAT power (it is far superior to the CT or Vortech system). You can up the boost any time you want by simply swapping the pulley. You don't need to buy engine management for it. All you need to do is overnight your ECU to hondata for a reflash and they will overnight it back to you tuned and ready to drive. The S2000 supercharger systems have a great reputation for being very reliable. The install and maintenance is VERY easy compared to a turbo kit. And the best part about it: You can literally do it for the advertised price! No need to budget for extra parts and tuning, etc... It is prices well at around $6k. TURN KEY!

I hope this information helps your decision. PM me if you have any more questions.
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 02:39 AM
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It can be done cheaper, but it'll take time looking for deals. I'm at 5k and could of probably pushed it down to 4k with a cheaper manifold, but I'm shooting for the fastest spool possible on a gt3071 with a twin scroll manifold.

Here's my cost breakdown.
GT3071 750
Tial WG 260
Spearco FMIC 0
Knockoff BOV 70
radiator 250
fuel pump 80
injector clips 50
headgasket 180
ac relocation 310
tubular manifold 525
manifold mods, downpipe 600
injectors 355
exhaust 500
headstuds 154
oil restrictor 35
oil feed line 18
oil cooler and lines/fittings 100

IC pipes 200

This is 4400

I'll most likely go FI/C and tune myself putting me at 5k. I also need to add gauges so figure another 600.

Hope this helped some.
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bruthaboost,Oct 11 2008, 02:39 AM
It can be done cheaper, but it'll take time looking for deals. I'm at 5k and could of probably pushed it down to 4k with a cheaper manifold, but I'm shooting for the fastest spool possible on a gt3071 with a twin scroll manifold.

Here's my cost breakdown.
GT3071 750
Tial WG 260
Spearco FMIC 0
Knockoff BOV 70
radiator 250
fuel pump 80
injector clips 50
headgasket 180
ac relocation 310
tubular manifold 525
manifold mods, downpipe 600
injectors 355
exhaust 500
headstuds 154
oil restrictor 35
oil feed line 18
oil cooler and lines/fittings 100

IC pipes 200

This is 4400

I'll most likely go FI/C and tune myself putting me at 5k. I also need to add gauges so figure another 600.

Hope this helped some.
....and let us all know how long it takes for you to blow your engine.
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bruthaboost,Oct 11 2008, 02:39 AM
It can be done cheaper, but it'll take time looking for deals. I'm at 5k and could of probably pushed it down to 4k with a cheaper manifold, but I'm shooting for the fastest spool possible on a gt3071 with a twin scroll manifold.

Here's my cost breakdown.
GT3071 750
Tial WG 260
Spearco FMIC 0
Knockoff BOV 70
radiator 250
fuel pump 80
injector clips 50
headgasket 180
ac relocation 310
tubular manifold 525
manifold mods, downpipe 600
injectors 355
exhaust 500
headstuds 154
oil restrictor 35
oil feed line 18
oil cooler and lines/fittings 100

IC pipes 200

This is 4400

I'll most likely go FI/C and tune myself putting me at 5k. I also need to add gauges so figure another 600.

Hope this helped some.
Well purchasing parts and making a working boosted S2k that you can drive are two differnet things. You have 0 listed for EMU which most people need to pay $1,500 for and you have 0 for tuning which most members can't do or choose not to do cause you can blow up or engine if it's done wrong which cost $500. Also I see no $$ for fabrication cause you need to make it all fit. It's cool you can do all this stuff yourself but many people can't. $4,400+$2,600=$7,800 and after somthing breaks or you add 1 more part you will hit the magic number of $10,000! IMO
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