S2000 Forced Induction S2000 Turbocharging and S2000 supercharging, for that extra kick.

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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 05:00 AM
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maybe try a used kit. i know s2kboost has a nice setup, and is planning on selling everything for 6k. full exhaust, tuned aem, garret 35r, lovefab mini-me, tial w/g & bov,garret 600hp fmic,ect. all youll need is a head gasket, tap your oil pan and clutch. 500whp. just a thought .
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 05:29 AM
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also consider the extra cash involved in your ball bearing upgrades. i believe its a $400 - $500 option.

780cc injectors will also require the use of a resister box, so add 110 dollars to your list as well.

as for your precision/3076r debate, i would recommend the precision turbo. the 5965b is made specifically for inline's kit, and does not require notching for the turbo to fit on the car. ILP assures me their turbo is still capable of 500whp - and i certainly dont need more power than that!
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 06:29 AM
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Wait till the Vortech comes out for the DBW
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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Thanks for answering my questions and the extra facts.
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Old Oct 12, 2008 | 03:28 AM
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S2krazy2,
What makes you think I'll pop my motor? You think this is my first rodeo?? I have my reasons for wanting a piggyback. Did I not list a fuel solution?

Revenge,

From my original post, "I'll most likely go FI/C and tune myself putting me at 5k. I also need to add gauges so figure another 600."

That's an additional 600 for the FI/C aka fuel solution and funds for gauges which honestly I have extras for, but threw that in there just cause.

Also, you are correct. It is fortunate I can fab stuff myself and I haven't listed incidentals. This isn't my first turbo project, so surplus parts and materials are around. The OP asked for opinions, I gave mine. There is another post here of someone else who pieced his kit together for much less than the 10k folks are touting around here.
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Old Oct 12, 2008 | 03:44 AM
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I'm not knocking piecing together a kit. That's what I did! But it still cost me almost $10k to do it the right way.

Forgive me for being skeptical, but when you come in here giving $0 prices and talking about having parts laying around, you aren't really helping the OP since he doesn't have the same option. Not to mention your item list includes "knockoff BOV" and a $525 tubular manifold, and you're talking about tuning a kit capable of well over 400hp with a simple Fuel/Ignition controller. The S2000 isn't just going to settle for a self tune with such an amateur fuel/ignition solution. And what kind of tubular manifold cost you $525? I would plan on having to replaced a cracked manifold pretty soon. So those are just some of the reasons why I think it is likely that you could blow your engine.

Prove us wrong, but be very careful in the process because the parts that you break will eventually factor into that "sub $5k" turbo kit.... then it no longer costs under $5k.
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Old Oct 12, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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Point taken. You are allowed skepticism, however I think qualifying your statements would lend them more credibility. Of course if I had disclosed everything, I think your incredulity would be a bit less, but I didn't feel like writing a book on how I came to all the parts of this project. In hindsight, I should have.

The 0 prices reflect things given to me. Products in trade for services. That said, FMIC's are now reasonably priced.

The knockoff BOV is to reflect that you don't HAVE to blow huge money on EVERYTHING. There is nothing inherently wrong with a generic BOV. Sure I have a name brand one, but does it really make that much of a difference?? Note, I would not run a knockoff for the wastegate. That's entirely different.

Regarding having to replace the manifold soon, I think you are speaking to things you don't have all the info for and really should refrain, or at least qualify your statements. Actually, the manifold is a used PFab tubular one-off. I got it for 525. Originally, it was more. It's currently getting an additional mod. I have absolute faith in Pangs welds.

Concerning the fuel solution. I know this setup is capable of over 400 whp, but I'm not taking it there. Plans may change and I may end up going for a stand alone, but this project is more about fabrication and fun than the end result of 400whp. No where did I mention HP goals. The FI/C is capable of where I want this project.

What I'm saying is before you start laying accusations and condescension ask why things are the way they are.

To the OP, this hobby is stupid expensive, however if you carefully examine what you really want and how to get there and are very patient, you can find deals.

And forgot to add this recent post:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=626511
Under 5k as well.
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Old Oct 12, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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The point I'm trying to make is that the OP wants to do this on a limited budget. Not everyone will find the deals that you have obviously found (especially when you're talking about parts that you already had). So your argument that anyone can do it for under $5k isn't valid. You kit would have cost much more if you would have had to buy things brand new. That is why we're all saying that a good quality kit is typically going to cost more than first assumed.
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Old Oct 12, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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Of course my kit would cost more had I paid new for everything, however if one were to look at my parts list one would see areas to spare some cost. For example, one can get a rev hard mani for around 225. Less than half of mine. Add that to a FMIC and you're about the same price point I paid just for my mani. I had a free FMIC so it's about even. Also, going with a bottom mount won't require an AC relocation. There's another 300 saved. The OP doesn't have to get a GT series turbo, used t3/t4 have become common place so there is another area to save. I'm adding an additional 600 in manifold mods. That wouldn't be necessary with a cast bottom mount.

The link I provided was to show as an example another person who put together a good setup for under five. There have been a few other posters here who have done the same, but honestly I don't feel like hunting them all down. So while anyone may not be able to do it, it is possible.

You're point is valid, however I qualified who could put together a kit for under 5k so your criticism is lacking, at best, some specificity. I stressed time and education about the goal, so anyone with TIME and KNOWLEDGE, not just anyone. Using this a first learning experience would be expensive. Obviously, the OP doesn't have the requisite knowledge now. I'm done with this thread.
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Old Oct 12, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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I'd like to see pictures of your twin scroll manifold. Are you going to use two waste gates ?
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