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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Blacknot,Apr 3 2008, 07:35 AM
I made 703whp@32lbs on my 84.5mm gsr motor with that turbo. I cant believe you want to go bigger It will never spool. I reved my civic to 10k just use the power. Dont build a dyno queen
you made 700 at 32psi with the 88 or 94?
any head work?

I'm not building a dyno queen. My car is far from that but I want as much power as I can get
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GDM S2K,Apr 3 2008, 04:06 AM
what manifold are you running ? I run the PTE71.8 with billet wheel
Its similar to a love fab mani
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by busterpit23,Apr 3 2008, 07:06 AM
^^me too^^ my brother's great with cars, but he doesn't know how to tune ems's like AEM. I really would like to send him to a school for tunning so he could learn.

If you can why not tune the car with the 88R first then try tuning it with the 94r and see the differences between the two turbos at the same boost level. You'll probally need your friend to be flexible with you on him lending you the turbo to see if you want to make the trade. If you don't like the 94R after the testing you can switch back to the 88R and load the map for that setup back in to the AEM. Since you have a free tuner your not going to spend big money on tunning, plus you'll help others decide what turbo would be a better fit for there cars too.

Good luck to you.
I could probably try that out, but It would be just to see spool difference and how it "feels" any faster. We tune on the street as far as we can then do the high high boost on dyno due to it gets real unsafe when your going crazy warp speed

So then I would probably only get the one dyno number out of it cuz Id rather not pay for more than I have to but if timing is right I'll dyno both turbos
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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i wanna see some dynos !!! do eet
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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Invest in a better tune. Mase just put a gt35r at 600rwhp on 750cc injectors, I believe. I realize its free, but I think it might be your limiting factor now. Stock compression? Stock rods (what was built on your block)? I believe 700 is right around where people start to think the rods will fail...

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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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^^^^^^^

yes he did, on stock motor and 750 cc injectors with his custom manifold
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jwa4378,Apr 3 2008, 07:09 PM
I believe 700 is right around where people start to think the rods will fail...
Are you kidding me? 700rwhp is when the OEM rods will begin to fail? I highly doubt this to be true. Yes, people are installing a 3mm headgasket and are able to run more boost, but there is still a limit as to how much power the OEM components can handle from a longevity stand-point. Lowering the compression helps you decrease the chances of detonation, but it does not address the physical limits of the OEM components. Although the OEM rods are forged, they are I-beams and are no-where near as strong as true forged H-beams. Many builders I have talked to have referred to the OEM rods as chicken bones. Do not put too much faith into the stock components as there isn't an S2000 on this planet which has made this type of power on stock internals and lasted very long.
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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To the OP...there is an Evo which made over 700awhp with a GT35R and a built motor. I don't have the thread link off hand, but I can certainly find it for you. Bottom line is a GT35R is good for at least 700hp with the right supporting mods. Your GT4088R is obviously capable of more power than a GT35R. I would suggest that you look into maxing out your current setup before you decide to go bigger. I am very confident that you will be happy with the results!
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 03:23 AM
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Im at 9.5:1 with cp pistons and inlinepro h-beam rods

My brother and I will be street tuning the car on the 4088 sat April 12th and dyno on April 18th, Ill probably switch to the 4094 after that and see if I can dyno again for compare and contrast
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Are you kidding me? 700rwhp is when the OEM rods will begin to fail? I highly doubt this to be true.
That was from a conversation I had with Mase a few months back, as he was prepping for Phil's kit (the car was already over at the shop). I believe he said 750 was his best estimate of the failure point. And he cited the I-beam vs. H-beam design as the problem.

I would still invest in a better tune. I realize your brother is free and all, but your kit should be putting out so much more than it is (unless that IP log mani is really choking the turbo)... but then again, you are running on e85? Should be able to contain a LOT more boost with that fuel without detonating... There was a vendor on here who had a bad-ass e85 car...

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