Vortech Stock s2000 Breaks 12's
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Originally Posted by Randizzle88,Dec 16 2008, 11:51 PM
Thanks chair yeah I made 365hp at church and 326 at shunk2
why even mention it for comparison unless you are just trying to create a shock factor? That dyno is on a world of its own, you know that.
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky,Dec 17 2008, 10:24 AM
326whp is on the the high end for a completely stock s2000 at 7psi if you are indead talking completely stock, but is still reasonable to believe. Everyone expects Church's dyno to be out of the roof, which 365whp same car....yeah why even mention it for comparison unless you are just trying to create a shock factor? That dyno is on a world of its own, you know that.
why even mention it for comparison unless you are just trying to create a shock factor? That dyno is on a world of its own, you know that.This is SOLID INFORMATION, no "hear say". With this information you can come to your own conclusions.
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Originally Posted by chairmnofthboard,Dec 17 2008, 11:17 AM
Just posting dyno numbers from different dynos from the same car. Some dyno read high, some read low. Just on how you load the dyno creates different numbers.
This is SOLID INFORMATION, no "hear say". With this information you can come to your own conclusions.
This is SOLID INFORMATION, no "hear say". With this information you can come to your own conclusions.
Church's Dyno is in lala land, I'm not the first and wont be the last to take that position.
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Randy's numbers show Church's dyno 12% above S2.
I ran on those two dynos about 6 hours apart showing 7.3% higher on Church's dyno.
Even being the same day there were some differences. It was at least 10 degrees cooler at S2 and the altitude was more. I was able to reach 1.6 psi more on the Church dyno by tweeking the belt. That alone would account for 25 rwhp and put the final numbers closer together.
I don't understand why some people feel the need to bash Church's dyno results since it is well documented that they tend to be high in comparison to other dynos.
His results are very consistant and I have found them to be very helpful in building my S2000.
I ran on those two dynos about 6 hours apart showing 7.3% higher on Church's dyno.
Even being the same day there were some differences. It was at least 10 degrees cooler at S2 and the altitude was more. I was able to reach 1.6 psi more on the Church dyno by tweeking the belt. That alone would account for 25 rwhp and put the final numbers closer together.
I don't understand why some people feel the need to bash Church's dyno results since it is well documented that they tend to be high in comparison to other dynos.
His results are very consistant and I have found them to be very helpful in building my S2000.
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Originally Posted by Sideways,Dec 17 2008, 02:14 PM
Randy's numbers show Church's dyno 12% above S2.
I ran on those two dynos about 6 hours apart showing 7.3% higher on Church's dyno.
Even being the same day there were some differences. It was at least 10 degrees cooler at S2 and the altitude was more. I was able to reach 1.6 psi more on the Church dyno by tweeking the belt. That alone would account for 25 rwhp and put the final numbers closer together.
I don't understand why some people feel the need to bash Church's dyno results since it is well documented that they tend to be high in comparison to other dynos.
His results are very consistant and I have found them to be very helpful in building my S2000.
I ran on those two dynos about 6 hours apart showing 7.3% higher on Church's dyno.
Even being the same day there were some differences. It was at least 10 degrees cooler at S2 and the altitude was more. I was able to reach 1.6 psi more on the Church dyno by tweeking the belt. That alone would account for 25 rwhp and put the final numbers closer together.
I don't understand why some people feel the need to bash Church's dyno results since it is well documented that they tend to be high in comparison to other dynos.
His results are very consistant and I have found them to be very helpful in building my S2000.
And then there was a comparison thrown in of 327whp same car with same mods, 40whp difference. Thats 2-3 psi worth of power on a stock car. So in those terms if he said my Vortech is making 365whp @ 10psi that would be more consistant and hold some value for comparisons.
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky,Dec 17 2008, 02:28 PM
Simply becuase his dynos are consistantly higher then 95% of the dyno measurments taken when forming a standard basis of measurment. Yes everyone knows this and thats why its dumb to even throw those numbers into the mix form Churches Dyno, I'm not saying he does crappy tuning or anything like that, I'm sure he is very good, but to use him for sake of dyno number comparison with the rest of the mix is misleading. I mean c'mon a stock S2000 pushing 7psi making 365whp And then there was a comparison thrown in of 327whp same car with same mods, 40whp difference. Thats 2-3 psi worth of power on a stock car. So in those terms if he said my Vortech is making 365whp @ 10psi that would be more consistant and hold some value for comparisons.
And then there was a comparison thrown in of 327whp same car with same mods, 40whp difference. Thats 2-3 psi worth of power on a stock car. So in those terms if he said my Vortech is making 365whp @ 10psi that would be more consistant and hold some value for comparisons.