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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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yes you can use kpro on ap1's...all you have to do is switch to the parts from an ap2...
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jzz30,Nov 12 2009, 08:49 PM
you need the parts for 04 and 05 ap2's as well
why would you need ap2 parts for the ap2? just curious i have never heard that...
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GpWaP1 s2k,Nov 12 2009, 08:47 PM
..and unfortunately unless hondata recently changed something the oem rsx o2 sensor does not work on the ap1's since they have a different set up with the o2 sensors(from my understanding)...
Arent you saying it cant work for me regardless if i buy the parts?
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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no that is just the rsx o2 sensor...everything else will work...do not buy the rsx o2 sensor...
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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the rsx 02 sensor isnt even on the list i didnt know i even had to buy it... So my OEM s2000 02 sensor will be fine?
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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well on the hondata website it says to get the rsx o2 sensor...i must have left that part out(my bad)...you will need a wideband sensor while tuning for a/f ratios...if you want a wideband, plx makes a good wideband with a controller and harness that is very reasonably priced (its $200)...and it includes the sensor, controller, and harness, and it is very easy to install...
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Old Nov 13, 2009 | 04:29 AM
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I have Kpro on my AP1. Here's the deal...

You have to change the parts listed on Hondata's site and use their supplied wiring harness with a S2000 converted RSX PRB ECU. That's it. The stock o2 works for narrowband. You CAN use the RSX o2 if you desire but its not exactly PnP. You have to make a harness and a few other funky details. Not worth it IMO.

As far as needing the AP2 parts - you have to remember that there are two different gen's of AP2's 04-05, 06-09. The 04-05 cars still need the parts above which come stock on the 06-09's.
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Old Nov 13, 2009 | 04:51 AM
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[QUOTE=JohnnyP912,Nov 12 2009, 11:53 PM] And if someone can reccomend someone i get it tuned by..
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Old Nov 13, 2009 | 05:05 AM
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its not as hard as it seems...just can get confusing...
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Old Nov 13, 2009 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyP912,Nov 13 2009, 12:09 AM
i would much rather go with Kpro since i hate AEM.. their cold start problems are ridiculous... i dont mind spending extra money if its going to be done the right way.. I have not searched yet into this about kpro but i assume from your post they dont work on AP1's without some AP2 Parts? What is that all about?
ignorance is bliss yes?

its all in the friggin tune. cold start means your tuner didnt tweak shit. mine has started like stock down to 40 degrees ambient. heck, it was 60 here this morning, it fired right up, enriched, idle dropped down as it warmed, then i drove away.

you want the best for driveablility? get someone to tune it all, not just WOT fuel/timing

now, if emmissions is a problem in your area, then i would lean towards krpo. but you can pick up a aem ems v1 1052u for prolly a G in the for sale forum. your not gonna come close to that for krpo.
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