the guy that called that a "neighborhood" must REALLY live out in the middle of nowhere LOL

 

I saw houses, cars, and general outside life. This by no means wasn't a closed course. Shouldn't be driving above and beyond the roads' means. His autocross "training" is what got him into this mess in the first place.

I see all types attending a year or two of auto cross and other various track events that get to thinking they are pro. Annnnd that's when the mistakes get made and things happen such as in the above video.

Glad the OP got out ok and with minial damage. Too bad he suffered damaged in the first place. Glad that no one got hurt or killed in the process. I hope he now thinks twice before going out and doing that again.

 

The strange thing is in the 1:20 of the video the tire strat to sounds but the rear hasn't gone yet. Seems that you brake when you saw the car coming.

 

First let me say that I am glad that you are ok, and that the other driver is ok.

Now lets run a few hypothetical scenarios.

1. What if there had been another car behind the one that spooked you?

2. what if there had been a kid playing on the side of the road, or someone walking? You just as easily could be going to jail for manslaughter.

3. What if the other car had panicked and gotten into an accident?

I am only 20, but I would never drive like this on the road. I enjoy carving up a canyon as much if not more than the next guy, but even I am mature enough not to drive like this on a public road where nearly every corner is a blind one. Driving in a "spirited" manner is one thing, but if you want to be anywhere near the limit of grip, you need to go to a track.

As for your auto-x experience, I would say that you have learned nothing. And no, I am not talking about your inability to correct the slide. I am talking about you as a person who has tracked and/or auto-xed a car that doesn't realize that even at a track where you have driven the same set of corners dozens of times, that you can still lose control at any time. There could be dirt/gravel on the road. The road could be wet. Another car could have dropped some debris or fluid... ECT. The one thing to take away from a track experience is respect for conditions beyond your control.

Beyond driving within the limits of grip, you should also drive within the limits of vision and reaction time. The most frightening molment that I have had driving was on a back road exceeding the speed limit. I came around a corner well within the limit of grip, (dry, wet, gravel, or other) saw a raccoon, and had no choice but to hit it. After I hit it, I pulled over to check for damage. There was none, so I got back into my car. As I continued down the road I was pleased with myself for not panicking, and just hitting the raccoon. A few corners later, I came to a quick stop as a kid was crossing the road just beyond a blind corner. I thought to myself, wow, I was lucky that I hit that raccoon, otherwise I might have been going to fast to stop. Then I though, what if the raccoon had been this kid? If it had, I'd still be in jail, and my life, and that kid's life would have been over.

These are things that I think about every time I go for a canyon cruise. I still enjoy a spirited drive, but I use the track to enjoy pushing the limits.

I'll finish by once again saying that I am glad that you are ok, and that I am sure that you will use this as a good learning experience.

 

I wonder what went through the other driver's head when he saw you sliding by him. Must have been a bit of an adrenaline rush. You live and you learn, glad to hear no one was hurt.

Not fair to blame it on the tires though. Knowing what you have, you've just gotta work with it.

 

I'm sure it was a lesson learned. Glad your OK and no one was involved.

 

Don't take this the wrong way, Josh, but I'm a bit scared for you and your 3-ways after reading this thread. Those shocks with good tires can build up a false sense of confidence. It didn't look like you were driving very fast in that video (thankfully), but your car is capable of much more now, and that can be very dangerous in the wrong hands.

Anyway, just be careful and keep it safe man.

 

9-3 not 10-2!

you should be "pushing" against the wheel and not just gripping/grabbing it

 

like I said this video was over a year ago. So I only had like 5 autocrosses under my belt. I've now got prolly 30 if not more. I've grown as a driver and no longer go out on back roads and play around. I learned my lesson and keep it on the track for now on.

The tires were cheap no name all seasons that came with my second set of ap1 wheels. They were down to the wear bars also. I shouldn't of been out thier but you live and learn.

spook, yea the car now is alot "faster" if you want watch the bytheville video on that site.

 

I'd say from the picture in your sig you need ALOT more seat time. furthermore that is hardly a wreck. More of a embarrasing moment but not a wreck. Hope you learned a lesson there and play it safer when out for a spirited drive.