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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 03:55 PM
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Is this the usual for Berk test pipes?

Where the pipe meets the flanges it appears un even and inconsistent...
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 04:09 PM
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I have had a berk test pipe and now their single and that doesn't look right to me. Though I don't remember the test pipe as much.
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 04:26 PM
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Might just be a correction for angle
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jst2878
might be a correction for angle
Isn't that why there's a bend in the pipe? It just seems rather poor for the flanges to not be welded flush on the pipe. There's a 3mm difference between opposites on each flange. Eg one side of cat back flange is flush with the pipe, 180* is 3mm below flange
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by arsenal
Originally Posted by jst2878
might be a correction for angle
Isn't that why there's a bend in the pipe? It just seems rather poor for the flanges to not be welded flush on the pipe. There's a 3mm difference between opposites on each flange. Eg one side of cat back flange is flush with the pipe, 180* is 3mm below flange
From what I gather, people here don't care about that kind of stuff, just low prices I guess it's been so long since anyone really manufactured quality parts that everyone's standards have dropped and people are conditioned to stuff like this. It's now the norm.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 07:15 AM
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Also noticed the picture on the site is welded on the inside, the one I received isn't.

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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 10:14 AM
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https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/545...ogy-test-pipe/

Must be the one made for promotional purpose or they needed to cut cost to compete. Pretty sure the mass produced ones aren't like that, unless Berk makes it in-house and good QC. I really doubt they do.

Sorry to say but from what I see most of the stuff that advertise made in the USA or whatever are actually made in China or something and most likely packaged in the USA.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=1937+...ed=0CAgQ_AUoAQ

I could be wrong but I doubt Berk can produce parts for all those applications in that small area.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 02:37 PM
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Have you called and spoke to Berk?
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 99SH
Have you called and spoke to Berk?
Well emailed them, I ll cut and paste later, essentially he said the band saw needs to be sharpened, and asked what am I comparing it to. Essentially, what I received is fine. I linked to the thread and pictures.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 06:55 PM
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Hi James,

The tube is sitting flush inside the wall of the flange with no disruption of flow to the exhaust gas. There will be zero leaks on the inside the pipe, that is not how that sealing surface works. There would have to be a hole in the lap weld that is on the opposite side of your picture for there to potentially be a leak.

Someone mentioned about welding inside the exhaust flange. We do NOT do this any longer as the flange has too small of a mass and warps too much for my taste. It is unnecessary and the single weld on the outside is more than sufficient for the amount of weight and stress we are supporting on a 3lb pipe.

How many other test pipes or exhaust parts (for any car) have you owned and what are you comparing your Berk pipe to? I'd just like to know what the perceived standard should be and I will what I can do about raising my standards to meet your expectations.

I'm not here to say that that pipe looks PERFECT, the saw could use a little bit of calibration which is why you're seeing that little bit of blade deflection and the slightly different height of the tube inside the flange. But that is exactly within tolerance and why it is a slip fit joint inside the flange with a lap weld, and not a butt weld joint at the surface of the flange.
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