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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 07:42 PM
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To be honest, me coming from a manufacturing background, everything Berk said totally makes sense. Welding that edge could potentially warp the flange. I really doubt what you are seeing will change the function of the part or its durability. If it really would make you feel better,take it to a welder and have them tig those ends up. Once those ends are welded up, you won't notice the gaps anymore or the mismatches either. The flanges might get warped then you could have a problem with it sealing correctly. For an exhaust part,it looks totally acceptable the way it is to me at least.

If it leaks when you are using it,then that could be a problem...
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 08:33 PM
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 08:42 PM
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"Berk Technology has proven itself as one of the leaders in exhaust development and manufacturing with a focus on performance and racing applications. Our back-to-back championships, race wins, and multiple track records are testament to the quality and performance of Berk Technology products. Few other manufacturers have such close ties between their race and street applications.

The championship winning motorsports program at Berk Technology is at the heart of the R&D department where new products and ideas are tested in the harshest conditions imaginable. Each and every product we design, manufacture, and sell for your street driven sports car contains the race bred DNA of a motorsports champion."

Arsenal, I hope you get a full refund if you are not happy with what you got due to the misleading images. If they don't weld the inside any more, at least update the customer with a recent image.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by B0neSt0ck
To be honest, me coming from a manufacturing background, everything Berk said totally makes sense.
+1 on this.

Arsenal, I would ask if they have some sort of a warranty IF the weld around that flange were to break under normal use.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 12:44 AM
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https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/997...st-pipe-issue/
http://my350z.com/forum/intake-exhau...est-pipes.html

I really hate doing stuff twice if it shouldn't need redoing, so if i were to buy and install something i'd rather do it once.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by nitewing117
Originally Posted by B0neSt0ck' timestamp='1395805344' post='23081462
To be honest, me coming from a manufacturing background, everything Berk said totally makes sense.
+1 on this.

Arsenal, I would ask if they have some sort of a warranty IF the weld around that flange were to break under normal use.
I am not disagreeing with him, I was just under the impression that on such a simple part the final product would be of higher quality. I am not asking for a refund or anything
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by S2Krazy89
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/997...st-pipe-issue/
http://my350z.com/forum/intake-exhau...est-pipes.html

I really hate doing stuff twice if it shouldn't need redoing, so if i were to buy and install something i'd rather do it once.
Things can happen during manufacturing, install, shipping etc etc . No company has a flawless reputation. Just cause some people experience a faulty part doesn't mean that company sells junk or isn't quality. I've had my Berk 3 inch headerback since 2011 now with no problems. Does that mean everyone will have the same experience, no. But it also doesn't mean everyone is going to hang their stuff fall apart. Berk is a great company and handles any problems usually right away without hassle.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 03:16 PM
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And for those exact reasons companies will develop some form of quality control for items prior to shipment.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 03:26 PM
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For $100, it's hard to think you'd get something better than that IMO. It's going to work just fine, how many kids have these installed on their beat ass cars without a problem?

But this is why I'd never go into this business. I have OCD, and would never make money lol
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Redline S2K
Originally Posted by S2Krazy89' timestamp='1395823456' post='23081650
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/997...st-pipe-issue/
http://my350z.com/forum/intake-exhau...est-pipes.html

I really hate doing stuff twice if it shouldn't need redoing, so if i were to buy and install something i'd rather do it once.
Things can happen during manufacturing, install, shipping etc etc . No company has a flawless reputation. Just cause some people experience a faulty part doesn't mean that company sells junk or isn't quality. I've had my Berk 3 inch headerback since 2011 now with no problems. Does that mean everyone will have the same experience, no. But it also doesn't mean everyone is going to hang their stuff fall apart. Berk is a great company and handles any problems usually right away without hassle.
What of those that had problems but don't post?

Look, the point is that they advertise themselves as a leader in exhaust technology (no where close). Their product is suppose to be tested in the harshest conditions and R&D and race bred DNA blah blah... When something fails (which i have demonstrated it does fail) in motorsport (WRC, F1, FIA sanctioned events), the team would immediately try to come up with solutions and fix that issue no matter how small. So if these kind of shops advertise as such, I hold them to an even higher standard than lets say Megan. If its a lack technology,resource, skills, or a cost issue just say so (leader?)! If the community held higher standards, we wouldn't be flooded with inferior parts and it will also attract higher end manufacturers (some don't make components for our cars because the market is too crowded with cheap stuff and they know people chase price) that just don't throw some pipes together and call it a day. An exhaust system is quite complex, and this car is difficult to improve upon because Honda did very good R&D from scratch. Don't want this to turn into an essay so yeah do whatever you guys like.

I'm not an exhaust engineer but I think those sharp edges will effect flow and cause turbulence. Will it effect performance? I don't know. It is something that can be fixed with just labor and QC. So that is why I question their standards when it just require some extra time on the welder.

As for them manufacturing their stuff in the USA, I call BS.
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