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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Alloy Craft
Having 2 air filters will actually help filter the charge air more effectively. You would essentially double the intake filter area by 2 thereby dropping the air velocity through each filter by 1/2. The slower the air flows through the filter the more effective it is at filtering the air. Also the pressure drop through the filter setup will be lower than having 1 filter since drag force varies with the square of air velocity which could net you small gains in hp. However the merge of the 2 tubes could possibly cancel any gain from the increased air flow.
Awesome. Do you think it's possible to lose any power over my current FIPK? My main concerns were the 2 90-degree bends (silicone couplers).

I just want it for looks, filtering capacity is a plus .
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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Guy
You would have to relocate the radiator resivoir tank, for enough air to flow through the hole on that side. In my opinion, two filters would probably hurt performance. Seems like it would also disrupt the airflow when joining the two pipes into one, making it much more turbulent. If two filters were beneficial, I'm sure aftermarket companies would have made at least one like that. I'd listen to Gernby, he really knows his stuff. If I were you, I'd just buy a nicer intake. Although if you really want to make a custom one, I say go for it... but I would make one with just one filter. But hey, it's your car man. Do what you want to it, you can always change it if you don't like it.
Yes. I would have about 200 in everything, and if I did reverse it, I'd leave the V-shaped heat shield between the engine and radiator. The reservoir can be moved to another location permanently. After reading Alloy Craft's post, I think I'm gonna give it a chance.
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Old Jul 17, 2014 | 09:19 AM
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You could definitely wind up losing power, if you don't wind up with the right length of piping between the throttle body and Y-pipe.
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Old Jul 17, 2014 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AP1Driver
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The Y pipe would effectively shorten the intake length, which would change the torque curve. On the S2000, intake tube length has a very significant impact on performance, so you would need to do quite a bit of testing to figure out the right layout.
This is the kind of feedback I'm looking for. I have a gen 2 FIPK now, and it sounds and runs fine with it. This mod is about cleaning up the engine bay only, not looking for a performance increase, just wanna make sure there will be no performance loss due to the Y pipe.
All the performance pieces aside since you don't seem concerned with this. I don't understand how adding another filter "cleans up the engine bay." All of the super clean bays I see remove as much as possible. I feel like adding another filter and tubing that looks kinda odd isn't going to make the bay look cleaner. Just my opinion. Do what you want.
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Old Jul 17, 2014 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gernby
The Y pipe would effectively shorten the intake length, which would change the torque curve. On the S2000, intake tube length has a very significant impact on performance, so you would need to do quite a bit of testing to figure out the right layout.
Do you consider snorkels to change intake length?
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Old Jul 18, 2014 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Manga_Spawn
All the performance pieces aside since you don't seem concerned with this. I don't understand how adding another filter "cleans up the engine bay." All of the super clean bays I see remove as much as possible. I feel like adding another filter and tubing that looks kinda odd isn't going to make the bay look cleaner. Just my opinion. Do what you want.
When I say clean up, I mean clean up. The entire bay will be covered in custom carbon panels (like the puzzle kit) and the only things exposed will be the intake and the valve cover/manifold. You'll understand when I post pics. It's only a couple hundred bucks, worse case thrown away. Not a big deal if it flops...
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Old Jul 19, 2014 | 01:35 PM
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I don't hate the idea from an aesthetic point of view. However I question the symmetry you mentioned. If the throttle body was centered, then sure, but it's offset to the right. Having the intake bend to the left makes sense from a symmetrically balanced point of view.

Again, though, I like the idea of the look and, with careful design, might prove interesting. I hope you are able to punch out the numbers and prototype it. I'll be curious to see results.

One thing is for sure, if you got it working with no loss, your car will stand out!
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Old Jul 19, 2014 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by miskatcitnamor
I don't hate the idea from an aesthetic point of view. However I question the symmetry you mentioned. If the throttle body was centered, then sure, but it's offset to the right. Having the intake bend to the left makes sense from a symmetrically balanced point of view.

Again, though, I like the idea of the look and, with careful design, might prove interesting. I hope you are able to punch out the numbers and prototype it. I'll be curious to see results.

One thing is for sure, if you got it working with no loss, your car will stand out!
The tube with the bends and couplers will be hidden behind the heat shield that attaches to the strut bar, so only the y tube will be seen, dead center, entering a whole through the shield. Hard to explain til it's complete w pics ...
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Old Jul 20, 2014 | 05:34 AM
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The air is going to travel the path of least resistance, so if everything about each path isn't exactly the same, I think you'll end up with one functioning filter and one for aesthetics.
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Old Jul 20, 2014 | 06:26 AM
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The S2000's motor isn't even limited by one intake filter. Adding a second one is pointless (especially if it's sucking up hot under-hood air). You only really see filter setups like this on large V8s and V10s which move a huge quantity of air.
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