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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by starchland,Sep 17 2009, 02:07 PM
umm..clean the oem?

If you follow the directions, KN will tell you exactly how much oil to use on the filter. There is no need to let it sit overnight. And overoiling is the only way that it could gunk up a sensor.
fixed. Install the OEM, and clean the K & N is what I meant.

http://www.knfilters.com/cleaning.htm

The instructions don't' tell you how much is too much. put some wait 20 min, put some more. i found out that letting it sit overnight spreads the oil evenly without worrying about over oiling. Of course no one has to do anything I recommend. i just brought it up because someone was talking about over oiling...
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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I read the instructions about a week ago when i cleaned mine, all it says is, and i quote, "oil liberally" lol so.. maybe thats why people over oil it

On a side note, after cleaning it, i did notice quite a difference in acceleration, also I saw a dyno the other day with an OEM filter on the stock intake, and immediately after, he popped a K&N filter on and he gained like 8hp peak.. pretty crazy imo

EDIT: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=730310
Heres this guys post about the K&N drop in filter, hes making low numbers, but thats what i call dyno proof about the K&N filter as of performance over stock, he ended up making about 7hp over stock just by changing the filter

I did oil mine pretty "liberally" but I did let it sit out a good decent while, on paper towels to soak up any excess that drained to the bottom (laying on its side) it didnt look nearly as red as it did when i first got the intake when i popped it back on
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by liquid_helix136,Sep 17 2009, 09:48 PM
I read the instructions about a week ago when i cleaned mine, all it says is, and i quote, "oil liberally" lol so.. maybe thats why people over oil it

On a side note, after cleaning it, i did notice quite a difference in acceleration, also I saw a dyno the other day with an OEM filter on the stock intake, and immediately after, he popped a K&N filter on and he gained like 8hp peak.. pretty crazy imo

EDIT: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=730310
Heres this guys post about the K&N drop in filter, hes making low numbers, but thats what i call dyno proof about the K&N filter as of performance over stock, he ended up making about 7hp over stock just by changing the filter

I did oil mine pretty "liberally" but I did let it sit out a good decent while, on paper towels to soak up any excess that drained to the bottom (laying on its side) it didnt look nearly as red as it did when i first got the intake when i popped it back on
please do not kid yourself over this, you can get 7whp difference between runs, well within margin of error.

there's tons of variable that factors in how to read a dyno, please don't even bother with any butt dyno, because i took a sh-t the other day and gain 200whp

I have k&N on my car too but they are only a filter and they only do so much
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by iam7head,Sep 18 2009, 01:06 AM
please do not kid yourself over this, you can get 7whp difference between runs, well within margin of error.

there's tons of variable that factors in how to read a dyno, please don't even bother with any butt dyno, because i took a sh-t the other day and gain 200whp

I have k&N on my car too but they are only a filter and they only do so much
Let me rephrase, when I went from an extremely dirty filter (getting some bucking) to freshly cleaned air filter, the responsiveness felt that it had picked up a little bit..
happy?

And yes, Im gonna have to go with that dyno is legit, being the OEM rated the same twice, and the K&N rated the same twice, back to back

everyone says power gains on a dyno are useless unless put back to back, now that this one is back to back you shit all over it too? heh
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by iam7head,Sep 18 2009, 01:06 AM
because i took a sh-t the other day and gain 200whp
and if thats the case.. you may want to get that looked at
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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from my experience 7 hp is is out of the error margin for dyno testing. (same day, same conditions,etc)

the KN instructions tell you how far away to spray the filter and to make sure its evenly covered in red. If you follow the directions theres no worry to over oil
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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Every 50k, or if it looks really dirty sooner.

I put one in our TL and even my wife noticed a different at WOT. However I put it in the S and have noticed no improvement.

K&N says it doesn't void any warranty and apparently will step up to back the buyer up if there are any problems. Though I would talk to them first.

I'm a K & N fan and will use them on all cars. It's just a better product and less waste.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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2/5ths of the way down the page http://www.knfilters.com/filter_facts.htm

if you are concerned with dealers denying your warranty, read up on the magnusson moss act. they have to prove your modification caused the damage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gospeedgo1,Sep 18 2009, 10:11 PM
2/5ths of the way down the page http://www.knfilters.com/filter_facts.htm

if you are concerned with dealers denying your warranty, read up on the magnusson moss act. they have to prove your modification caused the damage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act
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Good info.
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by liquid_helix136,Sep 18 2009, 08:09 AM

And yes, Im gonna have to go with that dyno is legit, being the OEM rated the same twice, and the K&N rated the same twice, back to back

everyone says power gains on a dyno are useless unless put back to back, now that this one is back to back you shit all over it too? heh
Read the thread that you posted. He is up front that he had never changed the OEM that the first 2 runs were done on. Don't you think that'd be a massive factor in this test? He's not testing a clean K&N and a clean OEM so it IS NOT a good test. Did your elementary school not have science class?
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