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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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As a quick heads up on how this performs under a bit more duress (read track).

I ran the 1.3 at Motorsprt Ranch in Cresson after having not been on it in almost a year.

My lines were not as good as I recall from last time, but I was running about 1.2 seconds faster on average and my best lap was 1.4 seconds better than my best last time.

A lot of that is the added mid range tq and the earlier VTEC engagement really providing a benefit and allowing me to hold gears a bit differently that I would have previously.

SO all in all, I am really beyond pleased that it is beneficial on the street and the track.

Now to see on the autox next weekend.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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I'm subbing because this thread is just pure car porn.

I want this system so bad!!!
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Gernby
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I'm guessing most of that cost comes from the conical sections?
The megaphones are definitely expensive, but all of the material is expensive, just because I am not buying in large quantities. I'm paying retail prices for almost everything. Spend some time on Summiit Racing looking at prices for 304 stainless mandrel bends (in 4"), 304 stainless V-band flange assemblies, and HFC's, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Labor is also expensive, since I'm paying full shop rate at the local performance place to have them TIG welded.
Have you tried contacting an exhaust shop to see if they'd cut you a deal, not only on the rate, but on the cost of materials as well? I know my local guys would cut me a break if I was bringing them a lot of extra business on top of what they usually do. If your shop's not willing to reward you for bringing them the extra business, maybe it's time to find another shop to work with?
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 04:47 AM
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Personally i wouldnt trust just your run of the mill exhaust shop to weld these things up. They are stainless and are ment to be a quality finish product just like your catback with nice pretty welds. Not to mention most exhaust shops dont even tig weld anything they just mig it and call it a day.

Going through a performance shop means hes getting a professional welder that probably does roll cages/headers/turbo manifolds and things like that. Going through a muffler shop you are may or may not get a good welder, who does nothing but hack up pipes and goo them back together with a MIG welder in mass quanities.

Not to mention he already said he is interested in taking this design to a higher end performance car line than the s2k and that hes doing us a favor by letting us get our hands on it.
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by XxMerlinxX
Have you tried contacting an exhaust shop to see if they'd cut you a deal, not only on the rate, but on the cost of materials as well? I know my local guys would cut me a break if I was bringing them a lot of extra business on top of what they usually do. If your shop's not willing to reward you for bringing them the extra business, maybe it's time to find another shop to work with?
I talked to several performance shops that do high end exhaust work, but they were exhorbitantly expensive and none of them had 4" mandrel bends, 4" v-bands, or megaphones. They were also too busy to make my project a priority OR to give me a discount on labor. No shop is going to discount their labor unless they just don't have enough work to keep them busy.
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 05:32 AM
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BTW, I believe 3 of the 6 units have been delivered, but don't know when they will be installed. I'm still waiting for a shipping address for one buyer, but the other 2 are going out today!
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 05:43 AM
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Quick Gernby test the Urge Designs header!!! LoL. Sorry i just cant wait to see how it goes with your pipe.
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 06:15 AM
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Sounds like mine will delivered by monday...not sure which weekend but I'm shipping out for 6months soon hopefully I get to install it before I leave.

Ill be installing the gernpipe and ballade IM. Probably will have church do the tuning unless I try autowave. Could also verify on racelines dynojet research since I have 'baselines' at both places.
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 07:17 AM
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Sorry I couldn't get them shipped last night, but I just got home too late.

What is the ballade IM?
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jh4db536
Ill be installing the gernpipe and ballade IM. Probably will have church do the tuning unless I try autowave. Could also verify on racelines dynojet research since I have 'baselines' at both places.
Who is going to do your install of the midpipe? I'm in SoCal too and will be looking for a quality welder to do the work on mine. but I'm north of LA, pretty far from OC where Balade is located.

However, I had shoulder surgery 2 weeks ago and can barely drive w/ a manual tranny yet, so I don't know when mine will be installed. I will be installing it with a Vibrant muffler which I already purchased.
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