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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 05:41 AM
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Hello, Jon here. I just teleported from the year 2006 and find the S2000 to be quite modern. But seriously I can't relate at all. I came from a 1975 Datsun Z, then an '83. I am sooo behind in this stuff I don't even think about a backup cam. On the rare occaision I get into a car with the back up cam, I can't use it. It just seems weird. To me the my 2006 S could be a 2018 model. I wouldn't even notice....lol.
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 06:13 AM
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I would only be interested in adding keyless start. Get in, push button, go. Anything else modern is easily taken care of by replacing the head unit.
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 06:39 AM
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I don't understand why people like keyless start. I still need the key out to unlock the car with the remote. Then I need the key out to lock it when I leave. Then I need a place to put the key when I'm driving. Its stupid to put it in the console, in the way.

That the key isn't always in the same place just makes things less certain. What if key falls under seats, or it gets put someplace by a passenger and I don't realize it?

Traditional keyed ignition gives a common place to stow key. Ot also involves different processes for start vs stop engine. Panic situation, car revving out of control. STOP ENGINE NOW! Do I press the button repeatedly, press and hold, did I actually stop it already and now I'm actually starting ot up again?

Using the same action for two totally opposite functions, one of which you may be required to perform in a total panic situation, is horrible design.
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 11:57 AM
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I feel like the S2000 is nearly modern enough. Better audio was all I really cared about, and upgraded speakers throughout, an Alpine head unit, and that small amp they sell was all I needed. I have a 2016 4Runner for a daily, and even that at 40k+ still has a traditional key, no automatic climate control, lane assist, etc. . . I've got heated seats, XM radio, and plenty of space, and it can tow the S2000 to and from the track. Couldn't be happier.
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Car Analogy
I don't understand why people like keyless start. I still need the key out to unlock the car with the remote. Then I need the key out to lock it when I leave. Then I need a place to put the key when I'm driving. Its stupid to put it in the console, in the way.

That the key isn't always in the same place just makes things less certain. What if key falls under seats, or it gets put someplace by a passenger and I don't realize it?

Traditional keyed ignition gives a common place to stow key. Ot also involves different processes for start vs stop engine. Panic situation, car revving out of control. STOP ENGINE NOW! Do I press the button repeatedly, press and hold, did I actually stop it already and now I'm actually starting ot up again?

Using the same action for two totally opposite functions, one of which you may be required to perform in a total panic situation, is horrible design.
You're not understanding the concept. On my 2014 Lexus GS 350, there is no need for me to take the keyfob out my pocket or out of my wife's purse. The car senses the keyfob and unlocks when you grab the handle. Jump in, push the start button and off you go. When you park, push the start button to turn the car off. Exit vehicle and simply touch the sensor hidden in the door handle. Car locks, sets the alarm and folds the mirrors. Again, no need to take the fob out of your pocket. I totally appreciate not having to deal with keys.
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Wizard5
You're not understanding the concept. On my 2014 Lexus GS 350, there is no need for me to take the keyfob out my pocket or out of my wife's purse. The car senses the keyfob and unlocks when you grab the handle. Jump in, push the start button and off you go. When you park, push the start button to turn the car off. Exit vehicle and simply touch the sensor hidden in the door handle. Car locks, sets the alarm and folds the mirrors. Again, no need to take the fob out of your pocket. I totally appreciate not having to deal with keys.

I have the same keyless entry/start on my Lexus and I agree 100%. Key stays inside pocket at ALL TIMES. It has every advantage over a keyed ignition on a day-to-day basis.
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 02:29 PM
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Keyless entry seems rather hard to install, that's even if it's possible.
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Wizard5
You're not understanding the concept. On my 2014 Lexus GS 350, there is no need for me to take the keyfob out my pocket or out of my wife's purse. The car senses the keyfob and unlocks when you grab the handle. Jump in, push the start button and off you go. When you park, push the start button to turn the car off. Exit vehicle and simply touch the sensor hidden in the door handle. Car locks, sets the alarm and folds the mirrors. Again, no need to take the fob out of your pocket. I totally appreciate not having to deal with keys.
Well that isn't too bad. But the keyless cars I've driven, rentals, haven't had had those features. You had to have fob in hand to lock and unlock.

In any case, a button is the wrong control. The action to stop should be opposite of action to start.
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