Oil consumption
Oh seasons don't exist in Miami Florida, I'd run a 5 or 0 if it got colder than 40 degrees, it almost never does here. And if it does, I just park it in the sun with the hood up and let the sun do it's thing.
40 degrees, a 15/40 is good down to -15. My mix of oil in my S works out to a heavy 10/40 and My S has seen -7 degrees once but it sees some teens and 20's for some of the winter. I don't have to add any oil in my 7500 mile runs, summer or winter. I have a little over 130k miles on my '06 and its a year round driven car(just not in snow) with air temps from the teen's to 122. Even with it 122 and the ac on the car didn't over heat with the stock radiator, June is not a good time to go to a wedding in Palm Springs.LOL
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What benefit does having a higher W number give?
I understand what it means, but not sure why anyone would want/need to run a higher W number..
If the W is lower, the oil will run more freely through the engine during colder temps, then as the engine heats up, depends on the second number..right?
I understand what it means, but not sure why anyone would want/need to run a higher W number..
If the W is lower, the oil will run more freely through the engine during colder temps, then as the engine heats up, depends on the second number..right?
Other than start up, once an engine is at operating temp, it does not matter if it is summer or winter outside. The engine will maintain a certain temp, all things remaining equal, as far as the oil is concerned and will be at the viscosity it is formulated for. (Not talking about racing.)
There's a little more to it then just having different viscosity at different ambient temps. I have read that you want the smallest spread as possible. So running the the highest W you can with your start up temps, And the lowest operating temp viscosity you think you should run with how it's driven blah, blah. Will help with mileage and yada yada efficiency all while staying within the Service Manuals range.
Getting an oil to flow effectively the "same" at to far extreme ends of the spectrum (temp) is pretty mind boggling to me. those 0W-30's or even 40's have a ton of additives.
Still most would say follow the SM or pick wisely if u have added a force multiplier like SC FI.
Getting an oil to flow effectively the "same" at to far extreme ends of the spectrum (temp) is pretty mind boggling to me. those 0W-30's or even 40's have a ton of additives.
Still most would say follow the SM or pick wisely if u have added a force multiplier like SC FI.
Synthetic oils don't need as many...or sometimes any additives to get a large viscosity spread.
More additives make oils more prone to shearing. Once the additives wear off, the oil will be thicker at start up, and thinner at opetating temp.
S2000's shear oil apart. That's likely why Honda went with a 10W30 spec. CONVENTIONAL 10W30 is more shear stable than CONVENTIONAL 5W30. Honda did not spec a synthetic oil for S2000's.
They spec'd a 5W40 for arctic use, however. Which, almost inherently means synthetic. You'd be hard pressed to find a conventional 5W40.
Synthetic 0W30 should be more resistant to shear than conventional 10W30 or 10W40.
More additives make oils more prone to shearing. Once the additives wear off, the oil will be thicker at start up, and thinner at opetating temp.
S2000's shear oil apart. That's likely why Honda went with a 10W30 spec. CONVENTIONAL 10W30 is more shear stable than CONVENTIONAL 5W30. Honda did not spec a synthetic oil for S2000's.
They spec'd a 5W40 for arctic use, however. Which, almost inherently means synthetic. You'd be hard pressed to find a conventional 5W40.
Synthetic 0W30 should be more resistant to shear than conventional 10W30 or 10W40.
Originally Posted by B serious
Synthetic oils don't need as many...or sometimes any additives to get a large viscosity spread.
More additives make oils more prone to shearing. Once the additives wear off, the oil will be thicker at start up, and thinner at opetating temp.
S2000's shear oil apart. That's likely why Honda went with a 10W30 spec. CONVENTIONAL 10W30 is more shear stable than CONVENTIONAL 5W30. Honda did not spec a synthetic oil for S2000's.
They spec'd a 5W40 for arctic use, however. Which, almost inherently means synthetic. You'd be hard pressed to find a conventional 5W40.
Synthetic 0W30 should be more resistant to shear than conventional 10W30 or 10W40.
More additives make oils more prone to shearing. Once the additives wear off, the oil will be thicker at start up, and thinner at opetating temp.
S2000's shear oil apart. That's likely why Honda went with a 10W30 spec. CONVENTIONAL 10W30 is more shear stable than CONVENTIONAL 5W30. Honda did not spec a synthetic oil for S2000's.
They spec'd a 5W40 for arctic use, however. Which, almost inherently means synthetic. You'd be hard pressed to find a conventional 5W40.
Synthetic 0W30 should be more resistant to shear than conventional 10W30 or 10W40.
Originally Posted by Forziii
Sounds right...
I'd be more concerned about my engine not getting the oil it needs ASAP though..
I can live knowing my oil is lowering everytime I start the car from cold, but can't live knowing that every startup I could be causing more damage than necessary just to... save some oil..?
just top it up!
I'd be more concerned about my engine not getting the oil it needs ASAP though..
I can live knowing my oil is lowering everytime I start the car from cold, but can't live knowing that every startup I could be causing more damage than necessary just to... save some oil..?
just top it up!IMO, these 3k mile oci recommendations that are sometimes pushed on average citizens are not such a bad thing, since that ensures their oil never gets too low, as there is zero chance they will ever top it off themselves.
Speaking of checking, I've gone through about a 1/3rd of the bottle in 600 miles. Before I'd just be putting in about 70% of the bottle by now, then the rest of it by ~820 miles, before having to add again at 1,000 miles. So for me this oil is a win, and I don't know if this matters at all but the oil has stayed clearer than usual. By now the oil would start turning brown and easy to read on the dip stick, but it's still pretty golden FWIW.
But If my S used a lot of oil I would bump it up to a 15/40. One more thing you can do is when you have to add oil put in straight 40w oil, most 40w oils have a very strong anti-wear formula and if the S does shear oil quickly then the 40w will bring up the cSt to a better number.
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