Was there a problem with the header or more or less AJR. Just curious as I am looking at this header.

Swiftoy

 

what is //thread? why would you slash slash this thread? That doesnt seem very nice. why did you quadruple slash this thread thread?

 

I can't speak to the customer service issues with T1R/AJR, but I believe the issue with Bungholio's header was not really with the header (sorry Bungholio!). I believe it was an install issue.

When I first installed the header, I "nutted" it down on the head first, and tightend them down BEFORE attaching it to the catalytic converter. Then when I tried to attach it to the cat, it was too short. I believe this was the issue Bungholio had.

However, when I loosened the nuts holding the header to the head, then I was able to hook it up to the catalytic converter just fine. The holes at the top of the header are just large enough to allow the header to be adjusted. After getting everything bolted up finger tight, then torquing everything down, it fit perfect. I couldn't use the modified / lengthened test pipe that came with it.

 

it means "what I just typed answered all the questions and therefore the thread was over" in fewer words

 

Gernby thank you for the response.

Swiftoy

 

Actually multiple methods were tried in adjusting the T1R header with no results in closing the gap. My TODA header now had zero issues in install and nothing needed to be adjusted, dropped in and bolted right up.

Gernby we had multiple conversations back and forth about the header install prior and post purchase and glad you got it to work for you, but there was no way in hell it was going to work for me ( although im curious how much adjustment you could have gotten to close a 1 inch gap, as well as how the runners truly line up to the exhaust ports on the head ). As a matter of fact, another member local to me had the same issue with their header and was brought to my attention after he found out I had the same header - as we measured up the header sold to you to a stock one it was infact a shorty.

But to answer questions, T1R/AJR customer service is horrid. Some may love them, Some may praise them, but the way I was treated by them is way and less beyond acceptable for a consumer and thats my experience. I cannot speak for others.

Like I stated in my T1R Header/Test Pipe/Exhaust thread, I read raving reviews on this board in regards to T1R products and pulled the trigger on the whole T1R line for my car. After having personally deal with Ben/Jason as a customer attempting to get customer support and or help with their product with basically a go tea bag yourself attitude, I turned to the higher end crowd and became a brand whore. I have zero issues and zero complaints on my full Toda/ASM exhaust setup. Nothing misaligned, Nothing was off - It was perfect to the T.

All my T1R stuff was sold off at a high rated discounted price, Just to unload the garbage attitude from the company and the people behind it.

My 2 Cents.

 

I really meant no offense Bungholio. I just didn't have the problems you had. I also can't say for sure that I had a 1" gap when I first installed it, since it's really hard to tell how much gap there is between 2 parts that mate up the way they do (donut gasket).

I was concerned about how the ports would line up with the primaries, but the header made such huge gains for me that I have to believe they line up fine.

Now that I think about it ... the reason why it might have fit better for me may be due to my donut gasket. I took the header to an exhaust shop, and we looked through a bunch of random gaskets until we found a big, thick gasket that just barely sqeezed onto the end.

 

Trust me, I take zero offense. My reply is towards the product based on what you said versus what I had experienced. Even a donut would not be able to close a one inch gap. However your shop "miraculously" did so, toodles to them. I had at the time over 20 donuts lined up in front of me with zero results of a proper fitment.

As far as your gains go, as long as your happy. To properly document power gains/losses it should be on your own car from stock to mod finish. You can't assume that two similar cars will dyno out to being exactly the same - The Monday built car may be slower than the Wednesday built car. We dyno'd two cars, stock vs my full T1R exhaust setup and actually if compared to the two vehicles had nearly 4 less HP than stock (2001 vs 2002). Due to the inconsistencies, we then removed all the components from my car and placed them on the stock S2000, it was struggling after 5 runs to come close to what it had run stock on the dyno - Which it was short changed about 2-3HP from its original dyno.

"The Best Header" should have sales across the board with consistent gains from everyone. It should not have fitment issues and come with excellent customer support. The product should be backed by its company and not shun its customers when there is an issue that needs to be resolved. "The Best Header" should be affordable, yet not turn into an inferior product that people have room to complain about. It should also be able to adapt to parts readily available and not impossible to find. With that said, for $900 you can find alot of better deals on better products that won't explode, catch on fire, or not fit.

Again, its my opinion on the product.

 

I didn't have a shop do the install. So far, I'm the only one that has worked on my car. I also have TONS of soft dyno plots from before AND after the header install. It definitely made large gains, especially in the midrange by lowering VTEC to 3900 RPMs.

 

Then good for you, Like I said as long as your happy with it that matters since I sold you the product. If an opinion is wanted for a product that I cannot recommend to another person is warranted, I will be here to state this opinion of mine. Your welcome to yours as well. But don't take me for an idiot trying to defend a product you purchased nearly new for a high rated discount. I can stand here all day and tell you and everyone here how much of a POS this product is, There you can stand telling me and everyone how much you love it - Albeit the same exact item.

The item is worth as much as the people behind it. Thats where I stand.