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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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Ok I'll try again I want to keep it street legal. And let's say for the sake af argument that I am the best driver i am coming off of an f1 championship and want to race an s2000 in the off season. And I get on the Internet and say I want I good set of coils what do the s2k once a month track use guys like??? What do they think of a lightweigh flywheels??? I don't have a set amount of money that I am spending but I only make 45 k a year so not to much not to little on the budget. Mostly I just want some honest opinions on coils and what weigh lightweight flywheels would the real track guys recomend me??? Does that clear things up
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 08:35 PM
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Since you don't appear to have read the Racing and Competition forum guidelines, and are oblivious to both not-so-subtle hints to that effect and the three responses you've received telling you to stick to the stock suspension until you have a more specific idea of what you're trying to accomplish, I'm moving the thread to Modification and Parts for your protection.

Edit: Only to see it moved back, presumably by the Modification and Parts moderator. Dueling moderators fail.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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While I sort things out with Modifications and Parts' moderator, I might as well further explain why you're not getting the answer you want.

Originally Posted by Crazyfootcoy,Dec 15 2010, 09:31 PM
And let's say for the sake af argument that I am the best driver i am coming off of an f1 championship and want to race an s2000 in the off season.
If you were the reigning F1 champion, you would have a very specific list of things you wanted to change with your car's handling -- for example, reduce mid-corner push, improve ability to put power down at corner exit, reduce body movement in bumpy corners, etc. You would also have tried a number of things to attempt to address the issues (e.g. different sway bar, shock, and alignment settings). When you came to this forum and recounted your experiences, people who had had similar experiences would be able to give you very specific feedback.

Coming in here and saying "what kind of coilovers do you recomend?" (sic) is too open-ended to be useful for you or us. I could reply saying you should get a particular brand because I like the color the anodize their damper bodies, and that would be a valid, if completely useless, response. The right response for someone with a different car setup than you have could actually be terrible for your car. The right response for the F1 world champion (a high-end quad-adjustable damper) would also be terrible for you if you're not intimately familiar with the effects of the adjustments on your car.

You've already gotten what is, in my opinion, the correct answer three times -- drive the car stock until you have at least a rudimentary understanding of the *behavior* you want to improve, not the component. Until you get to that level of understanding, it'll just look like you're willfully ignoring our advice because you're determined to spend money on your car without any clear goal in mind, and consequently you're not going to get many serious responses.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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So anyone on this sub forum have any recomendations?
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 08:25 AM
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Here you go.

http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/sus...ton/club_sport/

Pair that up with a spring of your choice.


Disclaimer: Would I buy these for my car? Simple answer is no. I wouldn't know what to do with them. Although I can appreciate them, my driving and knowledge is simply not at the level necessary to fully utilize them. The car is still the limiting factor; I can still squeeze more out of the car.

What have I done to address issues I have with my car? 1. camber joint 2. alignment. 3. tire pressures 4. tire sizes. Between those 4 adjustments, I am completely satisfied with my car at the track. Further modifying the car does not improve my driving ability.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazyfootcoy,Dec 16 2010, 09:20 AM
So anyone on this sub forum have any recomendations?
I recommend that you stop ignoring the responses you've already received just because you don't like them.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 08:40 AM
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If I were you I'd drive the car and figure out where to go from there when I knew what I wanted, as has been suggested many times.

But, if you really have to spend money on coilovers right now there are some general recommendations that will at least be better. Recommendations will be very similar to autocross - see this thread https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...ic=798400&st=0

Making a lot of assumptions about your budget, what you're trying to achieve, and how much you could actually utilize adjustment, I'd probably go with your original plan of ground controls plus konis, probably revalved. Or KW V3.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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Ok thanks for all the input on coils guys I really appreciate honest input from people who track race. Do any of you run light weight flywheels? If you do how do you like it and what weight would you recomend for track racing with a stockish engine? I am doing the clutch anyhow so I thought while I'm in there I might as well.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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Bro, I'd honestly recommend leaving your car as it is for now and then go to the track. Track is a different beast from Autocross.

If you REALLY have to do something, get some good brake pads and change your fluids. That's it. Go to the track, and when you can outdrive the car, do some upgrades depending on what you think is important.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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There was a recent track thread on lightened flywheels.

It's a preference thing, mainly. Also keep in mind that a very good driver's setup might be VERY unforgiving to a noob. That's not what you want, even though you keep asking for it.

If you play golf, it's like asking for an 8 degree driver with an XX-stiff shaft for a 120mph swing... it's not going to work with an 80mph hacker swing. Try hitting a 2-iron blade at the range. Same thing. Walk before you can run. I know it's tempting to skip steps, but it won't get you far.

And my answer to the question:
Moton Motorsports, flywheel as light as you can get.
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