Header and Test Pipe/Highflow Cat.
While doing my testing over the past few weeks, I was really surprised that swapping out the stock AP2 exhaust with my customized AP2 exhaust with Magnaflow mufflers made no change to anything. It didn't even make a 0.1 change to AFR. Aside from the test pipe and Magnaflow mufflers, the rest of my exhaust was totally stock. As you can see above, my car made more power than the other FlashPro'ed AP2s that had 70mm exhausts.
Originally Posted by gernby,Jan 2 2011, 07:51 AM
While doing my testing over the past few weeks, I was really surprised that swapping out the stock AP2 exhaust with my customized AP2 exhaust with Magnaflow mufflers made no change to anything. It didn't even make a 0.1 change to AFR. Aside from the test pipe and Magnaflow mufflers, the rest of my exhaust was totally stock. As you can see above, my car made more power than the other FlashPro'ed AP2s that had 70mm exhausts.
I think Mase came to the same conclusion as you with the turbo cars. He was going to make and sell a custom exhaust and decided that there was no benefit over oem. Obviously a different application, but same result.
Originally Posted by Harpoon,Jan 2 2011, 08:43 AM
The OEM exhaust flows well.
I think Mase came to the same conclusion as you with the turbo cars. He was going to make and sell a custom exhaust and decided that there was no benefit over oem. Obviously a different application, but same result.
I think Mase came to the same conclusion as you with the turbo cars. He was going to make and sell a custom exhaust and decided that there was no benefit over oem. Obviously a different application, but same result.
Everything after the collector is a restriction.
"Here is another plot from an "S2000 club dyno day" a couple weeks ago. My car just had a test pipe, PWJDM intake, larger injectors, and a custom FlashPro tune. The 2 AP2's under mine each had a CAI, Header, TP, and 70mm exhausts."
Why would you need larger injectors???? My tuner said it would be a waste of money. Im looking for da troof!!
Why would you need larger injectors???? My tuner said it would be a waste of money. Im looking for da troof!!

Originally Posted by Jrse7en,Jan 7 2011, 12:39 PM
"Here is another plot from an "S2000 club dyno day" a couple weeks ago. My car just had a test pipe, PWJDM intake, larger injectors, and a custom FlashPro tune. The 2 AP2's under mine each had a CAI, Header, TP, and 70mm exhausts."
Why would you need larger injectors???? My tuner said it would be a waste of money. Im looking for da troof!!
Why would you need larger injectors???? My tuner said it would be a waste of money. Im looking for da troof!!

Originally Posted by gernby,Jan 2 2011, 08:51 AM
While doing my testing over the past few weeks, I was really surprised that swapping out the stock AP2 exhaust with my customized AP2 exhaust with Magnaflow mufflers made no change to anything. It didn't even make a 0.1 change to AFR. Aside from the test pipe and Magnaflow mufflers, the rest of my exhaust was totally stock. As you can see above, my car made more power than the other FlashPro'ed AP2s that had 70mm exhausts.
Originally Posted by gernby,Jan 7 2011, 12:38 PM
My injector duty cycles were hitting 95%, which seemed excessive. I figured I would upgrade to larger injectors for reliability, and also to try out E85. I was surprised that I gained power from them, but I did. I guess the spray pattern is better. Or maybe the fuel atomizes better when duty cycles are only 45%.
Originally Posted by gernby,Dec 31 2010, 06:36 AM
Get the test pipe and FlashPro first. The gains from a header will be much less significant, especially considering the price. Most headers don't even make any real gains.
Here is a graph showing my car totally stock (red), stock with Hondata's "Tuned" calibration (blue), and a custom tune with just a test pipe (green). The test pipe made it to where I could achieve gains in VTEC all the way down to 3500 RPMs.
Here is a graph showing my car totally stock (red), stock with Hondata's "Tuned" calibration (blue), and a custom tune with just a test pipe (green). The test pipe made it to where I could achieve gains in VTEC all the way down to 3500 RPMs.
"bolt-on"!
I'm considering a program from a tuner........
1). custom fab header
2). custom fab test-pipe
3). K N filter
4). flashpro tune
5). dyno tune/paperwork etc.
Shows AP2 at 236whp and 170lb.ft. which are higher than
the results of your car....this tune I would reach "stock"
AP2 max HP at 6200rpm and "stock" max torque at 3500.
Of course your low-end torque numbers are awesome and match
this program's they along with HP just don't top out as high.
I'm still consideroing the cost to play.....$1800. tune etc.
of just get 4.44 gears built/installed for $1300.
Of course together they would be great but I'd rather go one
or the other and use cash for CR springs/sways/dampers
ps...the tuner told me there was really nothing to gain from
exhaust change in regards to performance....unless your goal
is to change the sound of your S or to reduce some weight
considering the OEM exhaust is (relatively)heavy.
exhaust change in regards to performance....unless your goal
is to change the sound of your S or to reduce some weight
considering the OEM exhaust is (relatively)heavy.



