I didn't, lol. I think i explained myself pretty well.

 

This has fail written all over it, 600 for kpro .... Ya okay ... What about all the install parts that's another 350, plus 600 for tune that's 1500 right there if you find the kpro for 600 haha

Not happening, I love when people under estimate the build costs to convince themselves it's a good idea and affordable...
Dude Mahle pistons will shit the bed, cp pistons will require sleeving....

I'm thinking 5500 all in ..... Maybe a touch more if you don't remove and install motor yourself.

Good luck:... And get going haha

 

Well, no, to plan you must have realistic numbers, not some make believe out of your ass number, so no you didn't explain it well at all. Since I do have kpro, I'd like to help you develop a more accurate number, kpro used can be had for $950-$1150 range just for the ecu, now after that you must purchase k-series oem parts and a 06 s2000 valve cover, I suggest buying these new, unless you trust the buyer you purchase them from used $150-$300 range, now you have the liberty of doing the labor yourself or paying a trained professional, pick a tuner that can tune $300-$500 and install $250-$300....all in all its nearly double of your expected cost which isn't good for building business

 

Exactly, I wouldn't even waste time on the mahle pistons, wadzii has a more cost effective option using dry sleeves

 

According to inline, i will not need to resleeve, just hone. Its on the actual documentation.

And my sellers previous deal fell through, so I just got the rods for $750 shipped! boom. S2ki always comes through. just saved another 100.

And i explicitly said i wasnt including the cost of tuning. Clearly a sunk cost, regardless of what rebuild i went with, id me modding and therefore require tuning. No one is charging me 300 to install a kpro. Thats being done for free, but yes, ive been doing this for a long time and tuning will be expensive, i understand, but again, who isnt tuning their s2000 out there?
So if i get the kpro at 950, as stated, im in an extra 400 dollars. Still a good deal, the fact is i got the inline kit for about $500 off, you cant argue that isnt a good deal. Its actually an amazing deal.
Thanks for the useful input. I wasnt really aware kpros were so expensive used. Everything is expensive on this car, i paid 500 for a used standalone haltech on my old 1979 rx7 that ran a turbo II motor from an fb rx7. There is a big premium on anything f series related.
And that really applies eslewhere. My mazdaspeed 3 is also light years less expensive engine management wise, access pro makes great, highly tuneable products that can be run on stroker turbo motors. Really interesting that all things f series are so expensive.

But cost isnt really all that prohibitive here. Ill probably end up building a second motor for boost this summer for the s2k. I was just sort of celebrating my getting a 2300$ product for 1600$ (the real savings when u include shipping and tax, neither or which i paid for).

 

Your going to spend well over 5k. I know cuz I built a few engine before. And I'm currently building a f24. Only Mahle pistons are compatible with the stock frm sleeves. All other aftermarket pistons are not frm compatible and require you to sleeve the motor which cost about $1200.

Her are the things and prices of stuff that you must buy.

Pistons $500-600 or Mahle frm pistons are $800
2.4 stroker rods $800
F24 crank $600
Bearings $200
Oil pump $350
If you must get sleeves $1200
Machine work is prObably 300-600 for bore hone, hot tank, notch the pistons to clear the oil squirters, balance rotation assembly

Sine your head is old you will be wise to at least get a very basic refresh

New guilds, seals and a good valve job is about $600-$800
Head gasket and the whole bottom end and top end gasket kit is about $300 or so.
You will need an aem ems. 900-$1400. Plus at the very minimum a wideband gauge wired into the ems.
Tuning $500

I'm sure I'm missing a lot more stuff. All the stuff above must be done. You can't use your old oil pump or old gaskets. Also this is if you do everything your self. Add $600 if you can't build the block yourself. And add another $1000 if your cant do a engine swap yourself. Sine you there might as well change all the little heater hoses and water hoses as well.

I don't see why thing won't last 100k plus miles. A f22c is just a stroked f20c. A f24 is no different. Keep the revs under 8k and just drive it on the street like any other s2000 and 100k won't be a problem.

My recomedation is to only do thing if your a car guy. Meaning only do this if you know how to work on cars and your capable of at least doing the engine swap yourself. If not just buy a low millage f22c long block for $3k and spend another $1k for labor to put it in.

 

Well, no, to plan you must have realistic numbers, not some make believe out of your ass number, so no you didn't explain it well at all. Since I do have kpro, I'd like to help you develop a more accurate number, kpro used can be had for $950-$1150 range just for the ecu, now after that you must purchase k-series oem parts and a 06 s2000 valve cover, I suggest buying these new, unless you trust the buyer you purchase them from used $150-$300 range, now you have the liberty of doing the labor yourself or paying a trained professional, pick a tuner that can tune $300-$500 and install $250-$300....all in all its nearly double of your expected cost which isn't good for building business
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I also wasn't aware of the valve cover needing to be switched. Searched for 5 seconds on google, found honda shops selling them new for 180 (http://www.hondapartsoverstock.com/p...wd=&origin=pla) link for a new one for 177. On here, I've seen them go for very, very cheap. Hell, heres a used one from a couple days ago for 100 https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/107...#entry23032649, and it looks like I could sell mine for the same.

Question is, why do I need a new valve cover? I haven't come across that in my searches.

The labor involved with installing a valve cover is not really labor, pretty fast job for just about anyone. The engine removal, ecu install (which again, I can't believe someone would charge 300 for, it's not that difficult to do), and engine installation are all being done for free, just fyi. The only labor I am paying for is the assembly/rebuild, which was accounted for. (and obviously, the eventual tune)

The only real increase in price is the tuning, which I specifically stated I wasn't including, and stated I knew would be expensive. It's cool to be helpful, not so helpful to spout out nonsense like 300 for a valve cover used and 300 for an ecu install. you say it will double my cost, I see an increase of 350 for the kpro, maybe 100 for a valve cover- but hey, you never know, I may find a good deal on that as well. so in reality, it's 450 more than my originally laid out number, nowhere near double. even with tuning, i'll be right around 4 grand. still not significantly different than buying a used motor or much more expensive than a stock rebuild, considering that 1500 of my budget is going towards an ecu and tuning. I'll probably be able to make some money back selling my old rods, pistons, apparently valve cover, and crank. The pistons ended up being in perfect shape (the motor is already in pieces), So I still feel my original estimate was fairly accurate, not pulled out of my ass. Only thing unaccounted for was the kpro price difference, but I'm sure with some patience and diligence I'll find a decent deal out there. s2ki has always pulled through for me in the past. I think I am getting tuned at Parris Engine Dynamics in stockton, CA. That's where my car is, my engine building buddy who is handling the rebuild for me lives up there, so I sent my car to him. PED is pretty close by.

At least it hopefully will, lol, because the car is on it's way to get painted as well while the motor is out.

 

You should read this page before assuming that everyone trying to help you is making stuff up

http://www.hondata.com/kpro_s2000.html

 

Is that where the $300 used valve covers are? Lol.

I've read that, as stated, my ecu install is being done free.

Previous poster, ty for the info. My motor actually was very low mileage when it went (50k miles).

Question, you say notch the pistons, most every thread ive read on these build says to bend the oil squirters instead. And why do you need a 2006 valve cover for this swap?

 

Just got off the phone with Inline. The pistons I ordered are CP-Carillo, but they have been coated, therefore they do not require sleeves. So there goes that, as I was told, I do not need sleeves. Everything is still on target. Seems to be a little misinformation on here. Never said I was using Mahle pistons. Only real thing left to do at this point is source a k-pro.