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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 12:59 PM
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Could someone provide some suggestion for what toe settings to do for this?

I would like to maintain a neutral feel if possible.
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 02:44 PM
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What is your setup?
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 03:08 PM
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Minimal toe all around. For me, 0.0 front toe, 0.1 to 0.2 degrees rear toe-in. Dunno if you're AP1 or AP2, but if anyone tells you to dial in a lot of rear toe-in, ignore them. AP1 has a lot of dynamic rear toe change with bump, in my experience more static rear toe-in makes this FAR WORSE!
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 03:30 PM
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Agree with the above. Somewhere around 2-3mm total rear is what I found works well and also provides adequate and even tire wear.
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by starchland
What is your setup?
stock springs and koni shocks for now. 245 rs4 on 17x9 42 wheels.
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Old Apr 10, 2021 | 02:25 AM
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I've come to like around 0.3 degrees total toe-in best on wingless square.
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Old Apr 10, 2021 | 08:20 AM
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i use this for smaller tracks with short straights.
1/8” out front
1/8” in rear


For longer tracks with big straights (road America, vir)
0 front
1/16 in rear
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Old Apr 10, 2021 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ajohnson
i use this for smaller tracks with short straights.
1/8” out front
1/8” in rear


For longer tracks with big straights (road America, vir)
0 front
1/16 in rear
wingless?

what do you find the as the difference with the two?
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Old Apr 12, 2021 | 03:13 PM
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Wingless. Topless and square on 17x8.5’s

the 1/8”/1/8” provides a very nice turn in and stability in transition but it scrubs speed on the straights

going to the 0/1/16” doesn’t scrub speed at the bigger tracks that don’t need to be attacked
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