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Old 10-12-2004, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by shaggy,Oct 11 2004, 03:41 PM
The Elise was not classed at this meeting. Apparently the SAC had some new and pressing issues that bumped the Elise from the docket. Maybe next month.

Andy H.
Actually, the SAC did discuss and make a recommendation on the Elise, as well as other cars not mentioned in what has been release so far. Ball is in the SEB's court.

As far as what has been released so far, I will just say that the SEB did not agree with the SAC recommendations 100%. This is not unusual or unexpected.

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Old 10-12-2004, 02:38 PM
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Will the SAC recommendations ever become public information? I'd like to know on which of the issues the subject experts agreed with the SEB, and on which of the issues they agreed with me

I've seen several comments to the effect that it all makes sense in terms of the "long term strategy". Is the membership permitted to know what the long term strategy is?
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Well, if the move to AS wasn't a knife in the heart, for those of you who run your S2000s competitively using the SCCA's class index, AS just got a bump UP in the indexes. It's unofficial, but it's unofficial in the same way that the move to AS is; it's gonna happen unless a miracle happens. I thought that they would just leave the AS index alone and move all the S2000s in, but no, they gotta make it even harder for us next year. 2005 will not be a good year for the S2000s. Sorry for the crappy news.
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[QUOTE=PilotSH,Oct 12 2004, 04:02 PM] AS just got a bump UP in the indexes.
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Originally Posted by s2k2fast4me,Oct 12 2004, 09:23 AM
Actually, the SAC did discuss and make a recommendation on the Elise, as well as other cars not mentioned in what has been release so far. Ball is in the SEB's court.

As far as what has been released so far, I will just say that the SEB did not agree with the SAC recommendations 100%. This is not unusual or unexpected.

-Andy
Andy M. is correct here. I used the wrong acronym. From what I gather, the SEB didn't have a chance to talk about the Elise even though the SAC made a recommendation.

Sorry for the mis-information.

Andy H.
Old 10-13-2004, 05:11 AM
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Knife in the heart is certianly too strong - the top three s2000's were all significantly faster than AS this year at nationals - the S (any year) is a competive car in either AS or BS.
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Is SEB going to give us or get us a deal on new AS magnets to replace the BS ones?
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I think it's been said but you guys are worrying to much. To be honest I Think A-stock is probably shaking in their boots. I almost bought a C-4 vette for A-stock, I'm glad I didn't do that!!!!
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Isley's car is for sale for $10k. Cheap insurance to cover course dependency problems
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Originally Posted by Orthonormal,Oct 12 2004, 05:38 PM
Will the SAC recommendations ever become public information? I'd like to know on which of the issues the subject experts agreed with the SEB, and on which of the issues they agreed with me

I've seen several comments to the effect that it all makes sense in terms of the "long term strategy". Is the membership permitted to know what the long term strategy is?
SAC recommendations should not become public. The A in SAC is Advisory. The SEB makes the final decision based on their advice and all other information the SEB receives. Publishing SAC recommendations would be no different from publishing a letter you wrote to the SEB. I can think of no positive effect that publication would have on the process.

I do absolutely agree that the SEB should have and publish for comment the long term stategy or objectives for classing, including perhaps how to approach cars that prove to be significantly better or worse than expected when they were classed.

Gregg Lee
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