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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by S2Kretard,Apr 9 2008, 05:50 PM
I've been engineering the most dominant Time Attack car of the last 2 years...
Maybe it's the driver (you) that is extremely good, not necessarily the car setup.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Naka,Apr 9 2008, 08:14 PM
Maybe it's the driver (you) that is extremely good, not necessarily the car setup.
Haha... thanks, but I'm just an OK driver. My sarcastic point was, as an engineering major who also drives a bit, I'm very well aware of how dampers, springs, bars, and just about anything else you want to bring up affect vehicle dynamics.

If you want to ask questions and learn something, I'm happy to help you out. But this 'discussion' will go nowhere if all you want to do is quote something from a book that you don't fully understand and then use that one line as the blanket gospel truth.



Just curious, are you a frequent participant of Autocross events?
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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don't get naka'd the **** out.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by S2Kretard,Apr 8 2008, 10:19 PM
That takes all of 15 minutes, no?
one needs to remove or loosen the exhaust to free the rear sway bar so it takes a little more time, no longer than 40 min though.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bighead,Apr 10 2008, 10:17 AM
one needs to remove or loosen the exhaust to free the rear sway bar so it takes a little more time, no longer than 40 min though.
uhm no.

1) jack up car
2) remove rear wheel
3) disconnect 1 endlink - remove completely or zip tie/duct tape it out of the way
4) put on wheel
5) torque wheel
6) remove jack
7) drive

If it takes you 15 minutes to do that you might want find someone else to work on your car because it probably takes you 2 hours to change your brakes
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by S2Kretard,Apr 10 2008, 11:05 AM
Haha... thanks, but I'm just an OK driver. My sarcastic point was, as an engineering major who also drives a bit, I'm very well aware of how dampers, springs, bars, and just about anything else you want to bring up affect vehicle dynamics.

If you want to ask questions and learn something, I'm happy to help you out. But this 'discussion' will go nowhere if all you want to do is quote something from a book that you don't fully understand and then use that one line as the blanket gospel truth.



Just curious, are you a frequent participant of Autocross events?
OK, then let's step back a bit. I was having a similar problem with my S2000. This was shortly after I changed from the OEM suspension to the KWv3 suspension. No wing, so the car gets twitchy.

After looking into the situation a bit, I decided to try increasing damping a bit on all my adjustments except front rebound. So yeah, I was tweaking two things at once (overall damping and this specific relationship). But I did decrease the ratio of front rebound to rear bump, which was the advice being disputed here.

And afterwards the car felt a little less twitchy in this phase of the corner (accelerating out towards trackout). It gave me a little more confidence to step on the gas and go.

Of course this could be that I was just getting used to the new suspension, or it could be a lot of other factors. But my personal experience is that, on an S2000 (big and soft as it is...), this book learnin' advice seemed to help the situation.

FWIW, YMMV.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by krazik,Apr 10 2008, 02:21 PM
uhm no.

1) jack up car
2) remove rear wheel
3) disconnect 1 endlink - remove completely or zip tie/duct tape it out of the way
4) put on wheel
5) torque wheel
6) remove jack
7) drive

If it takes you 15 minutes to do that you might want find someone else to work on your car because it probably takes you 2 hours to change your brakes
no disagreement there, I was assuming that Retard was implying to swap his aftermarket rear sway with the oem one.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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[QUOTE=blackey,Apr 1 2008, 07:04 AM]FYI I run almost the same spring rates as the SRC's but with no rear swaybar.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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No validity, at least not with higher spring rates. Never tried it stock. Since it sets up the car with a bit more to understeer I can't imagine it making it more twitchy unless it's due to soft springs. With 500+ lb springs I would say no.


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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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ur suspension could be to stiff and ur camber might be to argressive losin up the damping
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