B Street Advice/Prep
As others have said, get a stiffer front sway. IMO Moddiction\Saner, Gendron, Karcepts and bars similar in rates to those are the ONLY bars for autocrossing this car. The Moddiction does very well for me (Did well in BS with it and it is working great in STR setup as well) and wont break the bank as much. I borrowed a Gendron when I first got the car until I got my Moddiction bar. It certainly was a great bar. The Moddiction has suited me very well though. I held first place in BS locally all last year, got bumped to 2nd place in the last run of the last event
But the car felt good wityh my setup. I am in an AP1 so I was more limited to how much tire I could stuff on the rims than an AP2.
If in good shape, the OEM shocks do very well actually for a stock setup. You could go with Koni's, but for stock springs I know a lot of people just stick with OEM on this car. You can go all kinds of crazy on this area, but I would stick to your stocks if they are good for now until you learn the car and figure out whats next.
The Bridgestones are the tire to have this year. I am running on ZII star specs right now which are great, but the stones act just like them, only they are faster. I am ordering a set of the RE-71R's for nationals this year and will be swapping them out for our practice event here before nats. The Hankooks and the BFG are still popular, but the stones and the dunlops seem to be tops for most.
As far as brakes ... for autox one of the good street performance pads is plenty. I am on Stop Techs now. They do well, but I may go back to Hawks, even with the horrible dust and noise I experienced with them before, next time just for some added initial bite.
But the car felt good wityh my setup. I am in an AP1 so I was more limited to how much tire I could stuff on the rims than an AP2. If in good shape, the OEM shocks do very well actually for a stock setup. You could go with Koni's, but for stock springs I know a lot of people just stick with OEM on this car. You can go all kinds of crazy on this area, but I would stick to your stocks if they are good for now until you learn the car and figure out whats next.
The Bridgestones are the tire to have this year. I am running on ZII star specs right now which are great, but the stones act just like them, only they are faster. I am ordering a set of the RE-71R's for nationals this year and will be swapping them out for our practice event here before nats. The Hankooks and the BFG are still popular, but the stones and the dunlops seem to be tops for most.
As far as brakes ... for autox one of the good street performance pads is plenty. I am on Stop Techs now. They do well, but I may go back to Hawks, even with the horrible dust and noise I experienced with them before, next time just for some added initial bite.
As others have said, get a stiffer front sway. IMO Moddiction\Saner, Gendron, Karcepts and bars similar in rates to those are the ONLY bars for autocrossing this car. The Moddiction does very well for me (Did well in BS with it and it is working great in STR setup as well) and wont break the bank as much. I borrowed a Gendron when I first got the car until I got my Moddiction bar. It certainly was a great bar. The Moddiction has suited me very well though. I held first place in BS locally all last year, got bumped to 2nd place in the last run of the last event
But the car felt good wityh my setup. I am in an AP1 so I was more limited to how much tire I could stuff on the rims than an AP2.
If in good shape, the OEM shocks do very well actually for a stock setup. You could go with Koni's, but for stock springs I know a lot of people just stick with OEM on this car. You can go all kinds of crazy on this area, but I would stick to your stocks if they are good for now until you learn the car and figure out whats next.
The Bridgestones are the tire to have this year. I am running on ZII star specs right now which are great, but the stones act just like them, only they are faster. I am ordering a set of the RE-71R's for nationals this year and will be swapping them out for our practice event here before nats. The Hankooks and the BFG are still popular, but the stones and the dunlops seem to be tops for most.
As far as brakes ... for autox one of the good street performance pads is plenty. I am on Stop Techs now. They do well, but I may go back to Hawks, even with the horrible dust and noise I experienced with them before, next time just for some added initial bite.
But the car felt good wityh my setup. I am in an AP1 so I was more limited to how much tire I could stuff on the rims than an AP2. If in good shape, the OEM shocks do very well actually for a stock setup. You could go with Koni's, but for stock springs I know a lot of people just stick with OEM on this car. You can go all kinds of crazy on this area, but I would stick to your stocks if they are good for now until you learn the car and figure out whats next.
The Bridgestones are the tire to have this year. I am running on ZII star specs right now which are great, but the stones act just like them, only they are faster. I am ordering a set of the RE-71R's for nationals this year and will be swapping them out for our practice event here before nats. The Hankooks and the BFG are still popular, but the stones and the dunlops seem to be tops for most.
As far as brakes ... for autox one of the good street performance pads is plenty. I am on Stop Techs now. They do well, but I may go back to Hawks, even with the horrible dust and noise I experienced with them before, next time just for some added initial bite.
Originally Posted by Ham8urger' timestamp='1437450215' post='23687339
I think I'm just going to try 225/255 Re71r and just run the Eibach for now. Also, I just ordered Cryo treated full face Centrics and the Hawk Street Race pads. I figure I can run this setup for a year, get a good feel for the car, and then look into some higher quality parts later on.
Did you consider the Ferodo DS2500 or CL RC5+ sintered pads?
Originally Posted by DavidNJ' timestamp='1437456502' post='23687403
[quote name='Ham8urger' timestamp='1437450215' post='23687339']
I think I'm just going to try 225/255 Re71r and just run the Eibach for now. Also, I just ordered Cryo treated full face Centrics and the Hawk Street Race pads. I figure I can run this setup for a year, get a good feel for the car, and then look into some higher quality parts later on.
I think I'm just going to try 225/255 Re71r and just run the Eibach for now. Also, I just ordered Cryo treated full face Centrics and the Hawk Street Race pads. I figure I can run this setup for a year, get a good feel for the car, and then look into some higher quality parts later on.
Did you consider the Ferodo DS2500 or CL RC5+ sintered pads?
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There is one review of someone autocrossing the DTC-30 and they loved it. Overall, lots of people like the DTC-30 as a race pad and it has among the highest coefficient of frictions available in a low operating temp pad. The Ferodo DS2500 is a known reasonable compromise...no complaints from anyone using them...but don't offer the bite and maybe not as good engagement and release as the Street/Race pad.
interesting thread.
my setup for B street. RE-71Rs, 245/255. Gendron, 2 3/8 hollow on 3rd to softest, 0 toe and -2 camber on the front and 1/16 toe in and -2.2 camber on the rear. Re-valved Konis, usually 1/4 turn from full hard on front and 1/2 from full in rear but on rougher surfaces I add 1/4 turn from full hard. I really like the sway bar setting and the alignment but not so sure about the shocks. I haven't found any adjustment that really works much better than anything else. Not really sold on the Konis. Maybe I should go back to OEM for comparison.
I get a bit of under steer in the middle of sweepers but turns in good.
Would like to be able to get on throttle sooner coming out of sweepers. Might need to take away a bit of rear camber so I can induce a bit of oversteer. Any suggestions?
my setup for B street. RE-71Rs, 245/255. Gendron, 2 3/8 hollow on 3rd to softest, 0 toe and -2 camber on the front and 1/16 toe in and -2.2 camber on the rear. Re-valved Konis, usually 1/4 turn from full hard on front and 1/2 from full in rear but on rougher surfaces I add 1/4 turn from full hard. I really like the sway bar setting and the alignment but not so sure about the shocks. I haven't found any adjustment that really works much better than anything else. Not really sold on the Konis. Maybe I should go back to OEM for comparison.
I get a bit of under steer in the middle of sweepers but turns in good.
Would like to be able to get on throttle sooner coming out of sweepers. Might need to take away a bit of rear camber so I can induce a bit of oversteer. Any suggestions?
Curious on their street race pads as well as I have not used them. Remember that regardless of what pads you choose, stay away from an actual track pad for an autox car. You dont have a good chance to get them properly up to temp sometimes ( you can do some brake dragging, stops on the way up from grid, but typically not much) so you may actually be worse off with a full track pad. Getting brakes too hot is not really a problem in autox, so you dont really need a full track pad. The street/race, performance street, etc are generally where you want to be for this sport.
interesting thread.
my setup for B street. RE-71Rs, 245/255. Gendron, 2 3/8 hollow on 3rd to softest, 0 toe and -2 camber on the front and 1/16 toe in and -2.2 camber on the rear. Re-valved Konis, usually 1/4 turn from full hard on front and 1/2 from full in rear but on rougher surfaces I add 1/4 turn from full hard. I really like the sway bar setting and the alignment but not so sure about the shocks. I haven't found any adjustment that really works much better than anything else. Not really sold on the Konis. Maybe I should go back to OEM for comparison.
I get a bit of under steer in the middle of sweepers but turns in good.
Would like to be able to get on throttle sooner coming out of sweepers. Might need to take away a bit of rear camber so I can induce a bit of oversteer. Any suggestions?
my setup for B street. RE-71Rs, 245/255. Gendron, 2 3/8 hollow on 3rd to softest, 0 toe and -2 camber on the front and 1/16 toe in and -2.2 camber on the rear. Re-valved Konis, usually 1/4 turn from full hard on front and 1/2 from full in rear but on rougher surfaces I add 1/4 turn from full hard. I really like the sway bar setting and the alignment but not so sure about the shocks. I haven't found any adjustment that really works much better than anything else. Not really sold on the Konis. Maybe I should go back to OEM for comparison.
I get a bit of under steer in the middle of sweepers but turns in good.
Would like to be able to get on throttle sooner coming out of sweepers. Might need to take away a bit of rear camber so I can induce a bit of oversteer. Any suggestions?
Have you tried softening the front damper rebound setting (the only setting you have on Konis)? Do it in a very large increment to test, as small changes on a damper are not always easy to feel at first. So try something a bit more dramatic and see how it works.
Curious on their street race pads as well as I have not used them. Remember that regardless of what pads you choose, stay away from an actual track pad for an autox car. You dont have a good chance to get them properly up to temp sometimes ( you can do some brake dragging, stops on the way up from grid, but typically not much) so you may actually be worse off with a full track pad. Getting brakes too hot is not really a problem in autox, so you dont really need a full track pad. The street/race, performance street, etc are generally where you want to be for this sport.






