rlaifatt,
Do you know if the PFC 97 can handle a lot of heat cycles? Some really great race pads are designed in such a way that they can only endure a few heat cycles. This is great for the racer, but as a student it would be very bad because in one weekend I suspect my pads would go through 8 cycles and maybe as many as 24 per year.

kitwetzler,
Really? Interesting, I think I will look into this. If Hawk has addressed this concern I would be so happy!

Any other suggestions?
And yes, I appreciate the fact that nobody has told me to do a search...

 

Never had a problem with heat cycles. I had only used the 97's as matching sets front and rear.

 

Hawk did, but I still PAM or Fantastic my wheels when I do track days.

 

I have 14 (yep, count 'em, fourteen) track days on my Hawk Blue rears, and they're good for at least a couple more. They're not extremely rotor-friendly, but they're not too bad either. Don't see why anyone would run any other race pads.

 

my rotors got EATEN ALIVE by the Spec Cs, 4 track days later, I've still not worn through the groves the Spec C's left with the blues. they seem great!

 

Hawk Blue 9012s haven't changed compounds. This directly from a reputable source.

 

Speaking of rear pads...https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=240400

 

The other reason they use concrete is that high downforce cars (ALMS) can actually suck the asphalt up off the ground. They had this problem at Road Atlanta after qualifying for ALMS and had to pave some corners in concrete overnight before the race. Go figure. Nice pic!

 

Very true Erik, and I think the funniest patch, well to me, is this extremely steep uphill coming out of The Toe. Cars are very hard on the gas to get up the hill after slowing for the 180-degree corner. The GrandAm Sportscars have so much power going to the track on those huge wide tires, they are actually able to make the pavement like a wash-board, sort of what tractor trailer trucks do just before signal lights as they stop.

Thanks, me thinks this photographer has potential. The nicest thing was as a newbie he was shooting from some very unusual spots, and people were getting great unique pictures.

 

I know, I know, stop reminding me...

The reason one would not use them is when you have to run in the rain. I love to drive in the rain, this is when I do most of my passing, and I never hang out in the garage waiting for it to stop. Here in Upstate, we get rain, a lot of rain, and frequently the type of rain we get is a cloud burst and then sunshine.

The dust from the Blues gets all over the wheels and it gets wet, this part is fine, however if I'm running for an extended period of time (full tank of gas) the wheels can dry out and then the Blues dust is bonded to the wheel, and nothing short of sandpaper will take it off. My track wheels don't have to be perfect, but this type of random nasty black crap is not acceptable to me.

I have seen people suggest spraying the wheels with oil, but I'm just not feeling the love for that idea.