Bye Bye Bilstein Hello Ohlins
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I mentioned previously that the rear sits too high for the soft (well softer than most STR guys) springs. The front bites while the rear is still settling. When pitching the car back and forth, it results in poor stability and you loose the ability to power through those elements. Getting the rear to match the front is the goal here. The shocks can make the little adjustments needed for different temps and surfaces.
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No. Again, the car is very loose in the rear. Any shock adjustment to balance out this car in current form is covering up a setup flaw. The loose rear is the first point of lost grip no matter what the shock settings are whether entering/exiting a sweeper, slolam, or other transition. With the shocks turned waayy up, the car will initially push, then snap as the front settles. For me, more time spent trying to make this setup work is a lost cause.
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Chassis setup is all about weight transfer. The first form of controlling that is I believe to be the driver and the second thing is the damper.
Running a car with no comp and tons of rebound is going to make an unstable chassis and unless every corner is one that is entered on throttle you will end up with a loose car.
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Originally Posted by sirbunz' timestamp='1316545636' post='20990143
No. Again, the car is very loose in the rear. Any shock adjustment to balance out this car in current form is covering up a setup flaw. The loose rear is the first point of lost grip no matter what the shock settings are whether entering/exiting a sweeper, slolam, or other transition. With the shocks turned waayy up, the car will initially push, then snap as the front settles. For me, more time spent trying to make this setup work is a lost cause.
-Marc
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Chassis setup is all about weight transfer. The first form of controlling that is I believe to be the driver and the second thing is the damper.
Running a car with no comp and tons of rebound is going to make an unstable chassis and unless every corner is one that is entered on throttle you will end up with a loose car.
Keep in mind, we are all going to have different setup preferences. With this current setup, everyone that drives it cant seem to make it work for them. I will update as we start sorting things out.
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Oh oh, let's not get in to a battle of which is better. These can't be compared to a conventional twin or mono tube anyway.
We all know what's good and what isn't.
Penske, Moton, JRZ, Sachs, Bilstein, Koni, KW and Ohlins are all on top of their game, let's not compare one to the other.
For you Billy
We all know what's good and what isn't.
Penske, Moton, JRZ, Sachs, Bilstein, Koni, KW and Ohlins are all on top of their game, let's not compare one to the other.
For you Billy
Where does AST suspension rank , up against Penske, Moton, JRZ, Sachs, Bilstein, Koni, ohlins
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From: AZ
Originally Posted by macr88' timestamp='1290106705' post='19832834
Oh oh, let's not get in to a battle of which is better. These can't be compared to a conventional twin or mono tube anyway.
We all know what's good and what isn't.
Penske, Moton, JRZ, Sachs, Bilstein, Koni, KW and Ohlins are all on top of their game, let's not compare one to the other.
For you Billy
We all know what's good and what isn't.
Penske, Moton, JRZ, Sachs, Bilstein, Koni, KW and Ohlins are all on top of their game, let's not compare one to the other.
For you Billy
Where does AST suspension rank , up against Penske, Moton, JRZ, Sachs, Bilstein, Koni, ohlins?
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I see that PSI lists a SCCA T3 application for these. Any idea how easily they can be converted from a "stock" style setup to a "coilover" style setup? Thinking about getting these for SCCA BS, with an option for SCCA STR (or beyond) down the road.
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From: Emmett
Originally Posted by BryanRacing' timestamp='1318872293' post='21077319
[quote name='macr88' timestamp='1290106705' post='19832834']
Oh oh, let's not get in to a battle of which is better. These can't be compared to a conventional twin or mono tube anyway.
We all know what's good and what isn't.
Penske, Moton, JRZ, Sachs, Bilstein, Koni, KW and Ohlins are all on top of their game, let's not compare one to the other.
For you Billy
Oh oh, let's not get in to a battle of which is better. These can't be compared to a conventional twin or mono tube anyway.
We all know what's good and what isn't.
Penske, Moton, JRZ, Sachs, Bilstein, Koni, KW and Ohlins are all on top of their game, let's not compare one to the other.
For you Billy
Where does AST suspension rank , up against Penske, Moton, JRZ, Sachs, Bilstein, Koni, ohlins?
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I have no idea but I do know I love my Ohlins TTX's with AST top hats
