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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 11:40 AM
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Ask questions, brainstorm, talk about the issues, come up with solutions, make a report, implement the solutions!

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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 01:25 PM
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"Problems get fixed. You don't get to see the data if the data is proprietary. Or frankly, if they just don't want to share it."

Data? What data? Im confused. Whats proprietary about the process of making an oil pan? Its a sheet of steel folded up on a brake press, small sheets of steel fit up inside it, then welded.
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 02:35 PM
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Maybe we could schedule a meeting to discuss the data. Afterwards, we could send out a memo via email and then get everyone involved to sign the memo. Once it is signed, then we can check all the data points again to make sure they are correct and then have one last meeting. Hopefully, we could collaborate with Canton and have a meeting with them to discuss company core values and synergy on why some of the oil pans leak. I'd bet that it leads back to not enough meetings and email memos.
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hillard
"Problems get fixed. You don't get to see the data if the data is proprietary. Or frankly, if they just don't want to share it."

Data? What data? Im confused. Whats proprietary about the process of making an oil pan? Its a sheet of steel folded up on a brake press, small sheets of steel fit up inside it, then welded.
Exactomondo! I have no idea what data he wants.
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nissanfanatic
Maybe we could schedule a meeting to discuss the data. Afterwards, we could send out a memo via email and then get everyone involved to sign the memo. Once it is signed, then we can check all the data points again to make sure they are correct and then have one last meeting. Hopefully, we could collaborate with Canton and have a meeting with them to discuss company core values and synergy on why some of the oil pans leak. I'd bet that it leads back to not enough meetings and email memos.
Oh crap...but that means I have to make sure I have all the emails of everybody again! And, and, and, wait...what about the guys who bought a pan after the initial run? How do I get hold of them? And, oh crap, what about the guys who bought it through distributers and other retails outlets. And wait, what about the people who bought one but never installed it, or sold it! Do we have the guys who bought it on some list somewhere. Oh God...we should just turn this over to the federal government so they can issue a mandatory recall.
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 04:09 PM
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you guys should get each others phone numbers and text each other
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sillyboybmxer
you guys should get each others phone numbers and text each other
LOL. Let's do a group Skype. Then we can show each other our pans!
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by davidc1
You and the other guy have said you don't believe that they have fixed any problems, but you say you aren't accusing them of lying? Huh? If they say they did, and you say you don't believe them, then you are saying they are lying.
I didn't not say that.


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They are not allowed to respond on the forum.
They aren't allowed to respond to sell an item or to defend their claims of failures/fixes. The latter would be very beneficial to the members of this forum (maybe not so much for Canton though).

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You want these answers, then ask them yourself. Seriously.
We ask you because you keep responding and getting more upset in the process.
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by yamahaSHO
I didn't not say that.




We ask you because you keep responding and getting more upset in the process.
From the Urban Dictionary:

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,... with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response...

One who posts a deliberately provocative message...with the intention of causing...disruption and argument
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 06:24 AM
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Yeah, I'm not surprised you didn't get that one. My point is that you keep responding so passionately, but then you're telling someone to ask Canton. Pick one.
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