Read his question and my response again. He was asking about the transition from brake to throttle after trail-braking into a turn. You should heel/toe here as well to smoothly transition, though you aren't downshifting (shouldn't be anyway!). Left-foot braking is another way to accomplish this. But I'm not necessarily recommending it! Better to get the basic driving-at-the-limit skills down first.

 

Already addressed, just my input...

Yes, practice rev-match heel/toe downshifting on the street, do it all the time, every time. Downshift before cornering, downshift through the gears coming to a stop. You don't need SPEED to do this. I don't get enough track time to stay in practice, doing it on the street is an easy way to keep proficient.

This can result in a spin, but if you're running out of track/road, you may have to. Smooth gentle reduction in pressure on the pedal = better than the BIG LIFT.

2) Definitely complete downshifts BEFORE turn-in. You should still be braking at turn-in, smoothly transitioning from full braking to zero braking as you transition from zero steering input to max steering input.

Depends on the corner, and consistency, but *generally* you'll be getting on the throttle somewhere in the vicinity of apex, a little before.

non-adjustable, kind've a drag...

 

Zdan: i think i understand what u said , so what u mean is i should decrease the pressure of the brakes when i gain more effort to turn the steering wheel until the point i hold constant my feet is back on the throttle. correct?

how do u guys position your leg for heel and toe , no matter what seat position or feet position , i could never get it to blip properly which in turn make the car balance worse. do u guys adjust your pedal height lower or equal in order to do this? *bummer*

 

I think you understand what I said...
I'll try the dreaded "string" analogy. Imagine there's a string between the brake pedal and the steering wheel, such that you can only give maximum braking effort if the steering wheel is straight. As you let off the brake pedal, the string becomes slack enough that you can start to crank in steering angle. The less effort on the brake pedal, the more steering you can crank in. Sorta similar as you exit the corner, except that the throttle can't accelerate you anything LIKE as quick as the brakes can slow you down, so you can go to full throttle long before you've finished steering.

"Heel and toe" is not accomplished with the literal heel and toe of your right foot. You are on the brake with the left side of your right foot, and you blip the throttle with the right side of your right foot. Practice practice practice! Do it always on the street. That way you'll already be semi-proficient at it when you do your next track day. Trying to learn heel/toe at the track at the same time as you're trying to learn how to drive consistently at the limit is a real challenge. Already having some heel/toe skills from the street will make your next track day a lot more productive.

 

i think i may have already seen this posted here but it's has great information http://www.turnfast.com/

 

Glad to see Turnfast is back. Years ago, before I bought books, I printed everything they had and took it to the track .

 

I find pedal spacing slightly awkward for heel/toe in S2K compared to some other cars.

I twist my right foot slightly to the right (~30*), and place the ball of my foot about .5-1" in from the edge of the pedal. To blip the gas, I roll my foot.

I heel/toe doubleclutch every downshift on the street. It helps you keep in practice, and saves a little wear on the syncros.

I've always liked the string analogy!

 

Yeah...
In the S, it is more like FOOT HEEL shifting. I have to place the balls of my foot on the brake while I swing out my heel to the gas. I've never been able to do toe on the brakes and heel to the gas. More like half foot on the brakes and heel on the gas. But it works.

 

ok more practise got it ..... i'll try everything it takes to make it smooth as possible. the videos u guys have in this section made it sound and look so easy =). maybe i have a stupid huge foot

 

Congrats on your first HPDE! You looked good out there for the most part, but do yourself a favor next time and get an instructor to ride with you for the whole day if possible. I didn't realise that this was actualy a "luxury" at some DE's, as the ones I attended early on always had one on hand, mandatory for beginners and for the frist session with novices.

IMO The driving related questions you have are best left to an instructor during your sessions and preferably one that is experienced with that particular track. Having an instructor work with you for a whole day at a track is a positive, and you will get more out of working with them than you might think. I don't feel comfortable trying to advance your on-track learning over an internet forum, but I will say after watching your video that you will benefit greatly from more "driver education".

Your mission as a beginer is to learn the basics and learn them well. You will be better off making mistakes with your instructor on board as he will inform you waht is working and whats not. I can't tell you how many DE's you will have to go through with instruction until you are ready to go it alone, but always ask your instructor for evaluation after each session, and also if they think you are ready to be signed off. From there you will begin to discover your style - what seperates you from the other drivers weather it be by 2 feet or 2 milimeters.